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Digiface 1st August 2006 12:07 AM

DVDR files
 
can i play DVDR (not compressed) files with BSPlayer? i mean VIDEO_TS.VOB VTS_01_0.IFO VTS_01_2.VOB VIDEO_TS.BUP VIDEO_TS.VOB and so on...

J7N 1st August 2006 12:15 AM

Re: DVDR files
 
Quote:

(not compressed)
DVD contains compressed video. Most often the audio is also compressed.

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VTS_01_2.VOB
Yes you can. You need to install a MPEG-2 demultiplexer and a MPEG-2 decoder. VOBs are actually a kind of MPEG-2 program stream which may include MPEG-2 video, AC-3/MP2/PCM audio and graphical subtitle streams. I would recommend Elecard demultiplexer and Elecard MPEG-2 decoder.

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VTS_01_0.IFO
To have access to DVD menus and select different programs (movies, chapters) you need to have BSPlayer Pro (i think) and a MPEG-2 decoder.


Here are the filters you need.
Code:

http://rapidshare.de/files/25642909/mpeg2dec.rar.html
To register them use the following command
Code:

regsvr32.exe <filter_name>
where <filter_name> is the full path to where you unpacked my files, say c:\plugins\mpeg2dec\mpgdec.ax

You might need to do this to disable the default (bad) Microsoft demultiplexer:
Code:

regsvr32 /u mpg2splt.ax

Digiface 1st August 2006 12:45 AM

thank you so much :!: is that codec fine with default settings?

do i have to have BSPlayer 2.0 to acces to DVD menus? and can i use external (.sub,.srt) subtitles with those DVDR files?

Quote:
(not compressed)


DVD contains compressed video. Most often the audio is also compressed.

i mean that files are not compressed to one .iso file.

J7N 1st August 2006 01:26 AM

Quote:

is that codec fine with default settings?
Select deinterlace method = Weave (no deinterlacing) for progressive FILM content. Select "Vertical filter" for interlaced videos if you don't intend to apply more sophisticated deinterlacing algorithms.

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do i have to have BSPlayer 2.0 to acces to DVD menus?
Yes, I believe so. The "DVD Playback" was marketed here as a big bonus. :P

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and can i use external (.sub,.srt) subtitles with those DVDR files?
VOBs are no different than AVI, MKV or MPG files. But since the MPEG data is split into <1 GB parts you will either need to join them together or split the subtitle file. I prefer joining the VOBs by simple appending one file to the end of previous. Splitting subtitles is a more complex task.

If you cannot afford to copy several gigabytes of data due to FAT32 filesystem or lack of disk space, you can install DGMpgDec and AviSynth. This eliminates need for the Elecard filters. Both these programs include good manuals describing their usage.

1) Index all VOBs of the movie (excluding menu and any extras) with DGIndex ("Demux all tracks", "Save Project")
2) Create an *.avs file where you load the in saved *.d2v file and AudioDub() it with one of the demuxed audio tracks.
3) Open the AVS as a video file in BSPlayer.

Digiface 1st August 2006 05:48 AM

Quote:

I prefer joining the VOBs by simple appending one file to the end of previous.
can you tell me good and simple way to join VOBs?

J7N 1st August 2006 04:45 PM

Total Commander file manager. Go to VTS_??_2.VOB, copy it, enter VTS_??_1.VOB as destination. You will be presented with a dialog box: Overwrite, Append, Skip, Cancel. Choose Append. Repeat it with VTS_??_3.VOB, etc.

Replace "??" with the program number you work with.

This can also be acomplished with DOS copy command. The point is, you work at the file level, disregarding the VOB contents. If possible make sure you copy between 2 different physical harddisks to increase the speed.

Note: You will not be able to properly play back the so called multi-angle DVDs with Elecard fillters.

Digiface 1st August 2006 06:38 PM

i think that i split the subtitle.

Quote:
is that codec fine with default settings?


Select deinterlace method = Weave (no deinterlacing) for progressive FILM content. Select "Vertical filter" for interlaced videos if you don't intend to apply more sophisticated deinterlacing algorithms.

what's the deal with those changes? what's progressive FILM content and what's interlaced video?

PS. nice cat in that picture :wink: is that yours?

J7N 1st August 2006 08:38 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interlace

Extras (behind the scenes, deleted sections, etc) are usually interlaced and not watchable on a computer without deinterlacing. While the main movie, if it originated from film, is progressive and deinterlacing it will only degrade quality. Most European PAL DVDs are encoded as interlaced, even if they're in fact progressive, so the MPEG decoder doesn't know if deinterlacing is required.

Quote:

i think that i split the subtitle.
Then you must somehow determine the runtime of each VOB (not necessarily the same). And you will experience gaps between them during playback.

Nope, it's not my cat. Here's the full picture.

Digiface 1st August 2006 09:20 PM

can you give me very simple answer; 1. when to use Weave? and 2. when to use Vertical filter?

J7N 1st August 2006 09:49 PM

Weave – always, except when the picture appears with combing artifacts.

Digiface 2nd August 2006 01:35 AM

pending... working on it..

ok. got it work!

J7N 2nd August 2006 02:43 AM

Yea, you're right. I just tested an IFO and the video display was corrupted. On the same system configuration a different DVD played fine. I won't be able to help you with this as I know nothing about IFOs

Digiface 2nd August 2006 03:11 AM

only thing that does't work right now is subtitles. i ca't get any subtitles show on screen.


with Media Player Classic subtitles shows just fine. and overall seems to work better MPC.

MPC uses it own build in MPEG2 decoder. can that make a difference? i noticed also that BSP don't play VTS_01_1.vob. it's a dvd starting video. BSP goes straight to language select menu.

i now installed this mpeg decoder http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...kage_id=105790 and works better with BSP

but BSPlayer refuses to play that VTS_01_1.vob "starting video",where demultiplexer is needed. i don't know if is it because Elecard demultiplexer or is problem in BSP? MPC plays it fine. is there any other free demultiplexers that i could try?

Digiface 2nd August 2006 08:38 PM

UP. J7N,please read message above.

subtitles issue solved by installing that differrent MPEG2 decoder

J7N 3rd August 2006 01:38 AM

Subtitles have nothing to do with MPEG-2 video, so changing decoder shouln't affect anything. Elecard demultiplexer has an option for Subpictures but I have never used it.

In the first place I thought you wished to use external SRT (SUB, SAMI..) subtitles.

I'm glad you solved your problem. ;)

Destroyer77 7th August 2006 12:03 AM

Simple way to read DVD files (i.e. VTS_01_1.vobs)
 
The way I handle these files is to put them all in the playlist. Then DON'T select any file from the list, but push PLAY. Unfortunately I found that you can't choose the audio that it plays when you do this and sometimes it plays the middle of the movie first or something. But the point is that it's Easy and it works :)

J7N 7th August 2006 12:14 AM

Re: Simple way to read DVD files (i.e. VTS_01_1.vobs)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Destroyer77
Unfortunately I found that you can't choose the audio that it plays when you do this

You can if you use the right demultiplexer. Elecard demultiplexer works, while, for example, MainConcept which is included with Sonic Foundry Vegas doesn't.

dooniem 7th August 2006 07:28 PM

Nice J7N

The part where you explain where to get the codecs and how to "install" them is genious. You should sticky this to help others get their player to play DVDs with not so much hassle.

A good tip is to paste the two included files into X:\WINDOWS\system32

then you don't need to enter the path were you downloaded your files. just type:
Code:

regsvr32.exe mpgdec.ax
and
Code:

regsvr32.exe mpeg2dmx.ax
and you're set

J7N 8th August 2006 10:48 AM

I think you can create a directory for all manually installed plugins: media decoders, compressors, Avisynth, any DLLs required by applications. Then add this directory to your PATH environment variable (Win98 -> Autoexec.bat, WinXP -> Control Panel / System / Advanced). This way you'll keep all plugins if you decide to reinstall Win and can easily find and manually update them if they become obsolete.

Tizio 9th August 2006 02:05 AM

Good solution http://forum.tgmonline.it/forum/imag...s/icon_nod.gif


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