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itayy1 14th November 2006 08:29 PM

see full screen on tv while working on computer
 
is anyone know hoe to do it with bsplayer?
with media player it is warking good,i can see a little screen on computer and full screen on tv but can't see subs with it...only with bsplayer

BSPeter 14th November 2006 11:09 PM

Geforce/Nvidia or ATI card?
Using (nView) Clone mode or Ati's theater mode or ...?
:wink:

itayy1 15th November 2006 06:02 AM

see full screen on tv while working on computer
 
i use clone mode with gForce 5500
i see the movie from my computer in my tv but to see it full screen in my tv i have to see it full screen in the computer and i can't work on it

with mv2Player i don't have this problem...i can minimize the movie on the computer and on tv it will be full screen but i can't see subs on tv
thats why i use mv2Player

itayy1 15th November 2006 11:54 AM

please help
 
:cry:

BSPeter 15th November 2006 07:33 PM

If clone mode is selected in NVIDIA nView Properties an additional choice appears in the control panel between "Video Overlay Settings" and "Tools", i.e. "Full Screen Video". If you click on that, an option appears to select "Full screen device". Select "Secondary display" there (assuming that that's your TV).
What happens?
:wink:
(P.S.: I'm using ForceWare version 84.21)

itayy1 15th November 2006 08:33 PM

:(
 
it is stil a small window on the tv
maby somthing incorect at the proporties of bsPlayer

BSPeter 15th November 2006 09:38 PM

What forceware version do you use?
What video rendering mode is selected in BSPlayer
(rightclick >)Options > Preferences > Video > [Video rendering] ?
:wink:
(P.S.: I'm using ForceWare version 84.21)
Quote from page 6 of Forceware "Release 90 Driver issues":
Quote:

Issues Resolved in Version 91.47:
The following are changes made and issues resolved since driver version 91.45:
Single-GPU Issues Resolved
• ....
• Full screen video control does not work properly under nView Clone mode.
• ....

itayy1 16th November 2006 08:13 AM

Video rendering
 
in Video rendering the top three are marked

Tizio 16th November 2006 01:39 PM

And the rendering mode is?

itayy1 16th November 2006 02:24 PM

Video rendering
 
mode 1 is cecked

BSPeter 16th November 2006 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSPeter earlier
What forceware version do you use?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tizio earlier
And the rendering mode is?

You didn't answer either question! Tizio referred to the Rendering mode selected from the drawdown/rolldown-list.
Quote:

Originally Posted by itayy1
in Video rendering the top three are marked

??What BSPlayer version do you have??
:?:

itayy1 16th November 2006 07:51 PM

bsPlayer version
 
version 1.10 build 814

BSPeter 16th November 2006 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itayy1 earlier
in Video rendering the top three are marked

I asked what version as I only have two check-boxes under Video Rendering! Unfortunately I've not installed your version any more.
Quote:

Originally Posted by BSPeter earlier
What forceware version do you use?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tizio earlier
And the rendering mode is?

You still didn't answer either question! Note that Tizio referred to the Rendering mode selected from the drawdown/rolldown-list.

itayy1 16th November 2006 08:36 PM

sorry, my english is not the best
so what bsPlayer version do i need?
I'm using ForceWare version 91.47
i tryed 84.21(no good)

Tizio 17th November 2006 12:50 AM

Try to use this version
Plus if you select English as BS.Player language you'll be able to see which option is "Rendering mode" :wink:
In rendering mode you can choose between different "modes"
Code:

Internal renderer DirectDraw surface
Internal renderer overlay (default)
Internal renderer RGB mode
Internal renderer RGB overlay
Overlay mixer
VMR7
VMR7 renderless
VMR9
VMR9 renderless

can you tell us which one have you choosed?
Have you tried to change rendering mode?

itayy1 17th November 2006 05:50 AM

bsPlayer version
 
i installed the version that you gave me
and i'm so happy
it is warking grate
tanks alote
:lol: :lol: :lol:

but one more problem...
how can i move subs?
they are not in the right place

itayy1 17th November 2006 07:43 AM

subs position
 
the subs are not in the black strip, they are on the picture
and sometimes in the top of the movie

Tizio 17th November 2006 03:41 PM

http://bsplayer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11538
http://bsplayer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=27512#27512 :wink:

itayy1 18th November 2006 04:52 PM

still a problem
 
i try to read but it is hard for me...
i try to change rendering mode under (rightclick>) Options > Preferences > Video > [Video rendering] and now i can move subs down to the black bars but i can't see the subs on tv screen now

itayy1 18th November 2006 06:27 PM

?
 
i see also this under
http://bsplayer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=32971#32971:

Quote:

As long as you're really "extending" the picture (which depends on the original (real) ratio of the movie vs the screenratio of 4:3) it works.
this means what? that there is no solution?

BSPeter 18th November 2006 11:59 PM

No, to the contrary I would say.
I don't know if it may be of relevance in your case.
Sofar we still don't know what rendering mode you're using.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Like Tizio
In rendering mode you can choose between different "modes"
Code:

Internal renderer DirectDraw surface
Internal renderer overlay (default)
Internal renderer RGB mode
Internal renderer RGB overlay
Overlay mixer
VMR7
VMR7 renderless
VMR9
VMR9 renderless

can you tell us which one have you choosed?
Have you tried to change rendering mode?

Another question which I have is: did you already try "Draw subtitles to Overlay surface" under
Options > Preferences > Subtitles > [Subtitle properties]?
And further: what type of subtitles are we talking about (see item (9) of my Help2Help-post)?
:wink:

itayy1 19th November 2006 07:31 AM

answer
 
the rendering mode that i use is "Internal renderer overlay (default)"
in this mode i get subs on tv but can't move them and with another mode i get subs that i can move but not on my tv
the check box "Draw subtitles to Overlay surface" is checked
the type of subs is: x.srt and x.sub same problem with both

itayy1 19th November 2006 09:15 AM

please help
 
please help me, i'm so desperate... somthing so simple will be so hard?
in the rendering mode:
one option gives me a moving subs up and down but can't see them on tv(internal rendering DirectDraw)

another option gives me a moving subs that i can see on tv but the movie isn't full screen unless i maximize it in computer(internal render RGB)

another option gives me subs that can move only up and not down to black bar(defult)

BSPeter 19th November 2006 10:08 AM

Re: please help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by itayy1
another option gives me subs that can move only up and not down to black bar (defult)

OK, let's stick to this last option for now (where you can at least move the subs on TV). I think it has now become time to try BSPlayer's feature "Extend picture to" (assuming that you have a 4:3 TV and (e.g.) a 16:9 movie).
In Options > Preferences > Video > [Video rendering] just below the radio-buttons Mode 1 / Mode 2 there is a box offering several possibilities to "Extend picture to". Assuming that in Israel you also have PAL as TV-standard: select "576 lines" (For NTSC it should be 480).
Any result?
:wink:

itayy1 19th November 2006 03:13 PM

:(
 
i do that and the subs are in the black bar but the picture is very small
and they still don't goes down
i just want to move them down with a normal picture

BSPeter 19th November 2006 07:41 PM

Re: :(
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by itayy1
i do that and the subs are in the black bar but the picture is very small

Do you mean a small picture in an otherwise black TV-screen or ....?
:wink:
Maybe press [5] on numeric keyboard
or
uncheck/deselect "Don't resize video in full screen"
( under Preferences > Video > [General] )

itayy1 19th November 2006 08:24 PM

still no change
 
did that....no change the subs are locked and can't goes under 0
Quote:

Do you mean a small picture in an otherwise black TV-screen or ....?
in the tv and computer the picture is very small choosing 576 lines

BSPeter 19th November 2006 08:30 PM

Re: please help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Do you mean when you
another option gives me subs that can move only up and not down to black bar(defult)

...........this wasn't full screen in TV?
:wink:

itayy1 19th November 2006 08:55 PM

:)
 
full screen,yes but small picture with black bars very very big :)

itayy1 20th November 2006 06:28 AM

1 Attachment(s)
as i said in the mode "Extend picture to" i choose 4:3 the movie is very small and the subs are half in the black bar and half in the movie and ca't get them more down, only up
the black bars are bigger in the tv and computer, not like in the picture

itayy1 20th November 2006 06:50 AM

:(
 
1 Attachment(s)
still many movie look like this when i choose 4:3 in "Extend picture to"

itayy1 20th November 2006 07:01 AM

...
 
3 Attachment(s)
here is program properties

Tizio 20th November 2006 09:00 AM

Try to uncheck the 2 options in the second picture you uploaded (the one for Pan&Scan end the other for remember window size), then redo all the previous tests (remember to press Numpad_5 at least one time) :wink:

itayy1 20th November 2006 09:16 AM

:(
 
no change...look like in the picture that i uploaded

itayy1 20th November 2006 09:27 AM

:(
 
i just need in the defult option under rendering mode to moving the subs under offset 0
or in the other options under this mode to get the subs on the tv screen in fullscreen
why can't i do this simple thing? i love Bs and don't want to replace it

itayy1 20th November 2006 01:04 PM

i see that i'm not the only one with the problem
http://www.bsplayer.com/forum/viewto...?p=21979#21979
http://bsplayer.com/forum/viewtopic....ght=black+bars

itayy1 22nd November 2006 06:07 AM

...
 
ok...i will wait for next version of BsPlayer :)


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