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Kiki 24th May 2010 11:05 AM

HD videos/codec ?
 
What about a CoreAVC codecs? I can't play HD movies without laging. I have solid MPU. And when i installed CoreAVC i cannot use it, becouse i can't see it anywhere :(
Which codecs for HD .264 videos? :rolleyes:

adicoto 24th May 2010 12:10 PM

If you installed correctly CoreAVC codec you should find it in program files.
If you have also ffdshow, you must unasign H264 decoding from ffdshow and then CoreAVC will do the decoding.

Kiki 24th May 2010 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adicoto (Beitrag 41874)
If you installed correctly CoreAVC codec you should find it in program files.
If you have also ffdshow, you must unasign H264 decoding from ffdshow and then CoreAVC will do the decoding.

I'm. but when i disable libra..... in ffdshow pref., it wont stay that way. When i open Bsplayer and go to ffdshow pref. again, libra.... is on again. And i can't see CoreAVC anywhere :sad:

adicoto 24th May 2010 03:53 PM

START -> programs -> ffdshow video decoder -> H264 and disable.

Kiki 24th May 2010 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adicoto (Beitrag 41877)
START -> programs -> ffdshow video decoder -> H264 and disable.

It does not work. Every time i do so it's always do the same ''libravodec'' sh...t when i open movie.......

BSPeter 24th May 2010 07:44 PM

It is possible that you've more versions of ffdshow installed (i.e. a BS.Player "internal" and "external" version).
adicoto's "path" (via [Start] etc.) leads you to the "BS.Player-externally" installed version.
You should make sure to change settings in the ffdshow version as actually used by BS.Player.
In that connection please always use (with a file loaded) the "path" as mentioned by me (as second option) here (click here).
:wink:

Kiki 25th May 2010 06:38 AM

Thanks on advices!
Sometimes (about now :) ) i have a strange problem, i think is a bug.
When i play file and drop subtitles on it, my movie stop playing and than continue, and when subtitles again shows video is back on that position from begining , and so......... When subtitles is off, everything is fine.......
Is that a bug or i need some some kind of program?
Sorry on offtopic, and my english :wink:

BSPeter 25th May 2010 09:49 AM

Is your first problem solved now?
Further you do not seem to give too much info away.
What is your OS?
What type of subtitles are you talking about?
Same result if you load the subtitle using [Ctrl]+[L] keycombination?
Is "Draw subtitles to Overlay surface" selected
under (rightclick >) Options > Preferences > Subtitles [Subtitle properties] ?
Are you using new or 'old' subtitle-engine "Use new subtitle parser/renderer"?
(under: as above)
What "Rendering mode" are you using
under (rightclick >) Options > Preferences > Video > [Video rendering] ?
:wink:

Kiki 25th May 2010 10:13 AM

After that you suggest me, HD video was playing fine until i drop subs into.
So i m not shure if it works or not. I think it will works........
For details i will answer afternoon. Cheers!

Kiki 25th May 2010 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSPeter (Beitrag 41884)
Is your first problem solved now?
Further you do not seem to give too much info away.
What is your OS?
What type of subtitles are you talking about?
Same result if you load the subtitle using [Ctrl]+[L] keycombination?
Is "Draw subtitles to Overlay surface" selected
under (rightclick >) Options > Preferences > Subtitles [Subtitle properties] ?
Are you using new or 'old' subtitle-engine "Use new subtitle parser/renderer"?
(under: as above)
What "Rendering mode" are you using
under (rightclick >) Options > Preferences > Video > [Video rendering] ?
:wink:


OS- W7
srt. file
Its the same problem with ctrl +L comb.
"Draw subtitles to Overlay surface" - enabled
enchanced video rendering
''Are you using new or 'old' subtitle-engine "Use new subtitle parser/renderer"?
(under: as above)''- i dont know

Kiki 25th May 2010 04:14 PM

Now, when i changed video rendering, subtitles is ok :teeth:
but, picture is laging (small but noticable :frown: ).

Kiki 26th May 2010 06:31 AM

There some issues with that video rendering.........

BSPeter 26th May 2010 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSPeter (Beitrag 41884)
....Is "Draw subtitles to Overlay surface" selected
under (rightclick >) Options > Preferences > Subtitles [Subtitle properties] ?
Are you using new or 'old' subtitle-engine "Use new subtitle parser/renderer"?
(under: as above)....:wink:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiki (Beitrag 41886)
...."Draw subtitles to Overlay surface" - enabled
enchanced video rendering
''Are you using new or 'old' subtitle-engine "Use new subtitle parser/renderer"?
(under: as above)''- i dont know

If you "don't know" I must assume there (i.e. under (rightclick >) Options > Preferences > Subtitles [Subtitle properties]) isn't shown such option "Use new subtitle parser/renderer" (unless... no I won't assume that).
So, what version/build of BS.Player are you using?
I suggest you update to latest version first.
You also fail to mention which Rendering mode you've selected now.
I suggest to switch back to EVR (Vista's & Win7's "Enhanced Video Renderer").
Then check what happens if you deselect "Draw subtitles to Overlay surface"
and select "Enable drawing subtitles under image with EVR renderer"
:wink:

Kiki 29th May 2010 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSPeter (Beitrag 41892)
If you "don't know" I must assume there (i.e. under (rightclick >) Options > Preferences > Subtitles [Subtitle properties]) isn't shown such option "Use new subtitle parser/renderer" (unless... no I won't assume that).
So, what version/build of BS.Player are you using?
I suggest you update to latest version first.
You also fail to mention which Rendering mode you've selected now.
I suggest to switch back to EVR (Vista's & Win7's "Enhanced Video Renderer").
Then check what happens if you deselect "Draw subtitles to Overlay surface"
and select "Enable drawing subtitles under image with EVR renderer"
:wink:


Bsplayer 2.53
All done, same problem :(

BSPeter 29th May 2010 07:40 PM

And you're using new subtitle parser/renderer or ...?
:wink:

Kiki 30th May 2010 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSPeter (Beitrag 41915)
And you're using new subtitle parser/renderer or ...?
:wink:

It work's!
After 10x :biggrin:
But problem is same. Lag, low framerate on wide scenes (forest, mountains...)
I figured that VMP, MPC, GOM, and other players have same issues. Can it be to MPU. It's ATI radeon 3200. Must i in BIOS change memory for video? So much to do, so little nerves left.......

adicoto 30th May 2010 07:30 PM

HD play it's cpu consuming and not GPU. So, in this case, your grafic card does not have any influence. BIOS memory allocation is for 3D texture (games) no use in this case.
So, at this moment, which decoder it's used ? CoreAVC or ffdshow ?
If you don't need AERO while watching a movie, my advice is to use old rendering engine and internal renderer (default) for video. Screen will flicker for a second when movie starts / ends.
By the way, what's the audio decoder ?

Kiki 30th May 2010 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adicoto (Beitrag 41928)
HD play it's cpu consuming and not GPU. So, in this case, your grafic card does not have any influence. BIOS memory allocation is for 3D texture (games) no use in this case.
So, at this moment, which decoder it's used ? CoreAVC or ffdshow ?
If you don't need AERO while watching a movie, my advice is to use old rendering engine and internal renderer (default) for video. Screen will flicker for a second when movie starts / ends.
By the way, what's the audio decoder ?


I have K-lite, CoreAVC, ffdshow, Haali media splitter, and audio is Ac3filter.
I did not try aero thing do.....

adicoto 30th May 2010 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiki (Beitrag 41930)
I have K-lite, CoreAVC, ffdshow, Haali media splitter, and audio is Ac3filter.
I did not try aero thing do.....

If you are using windows 7, by default AERO is enabled. For windows 7, EVR it's considered to be the best rendering methode also because it does not disable AERO (main eyecandy windows interface). On the other hand, in terms of capabilities, internal rendered (default) as video rendering methode I personally consider to be the best. My advice, turn to it and tell us if it works better.
On the other hand, it's important not which filters are installed on your PC, but the filters BSPlayer uses to decode the streams. So, open an HD file, rightclick -> options -> filters ->advanced, and post here all the info, names of the filter used and also the paths to them.
Thank you.

Kiki 31st May 2010 03:12 PM

here:

\FFDShow\
ffdshow.ax, Size: 3565056 bytes, Version 1.0.7.3135

CompanyName:
FileDescription: DirectShow and VFW video and audio decoding/encoding/processing filter
FileVersion: 1.0.7.3135
InternalName: ffdshow
LegalCopyright: Copyright © 2002-2008
LegalTradeMarks: GNU GPL
OriginalFilename: ffdshow.ax
ProductName: ffdshow
ProductVersion: 1.0.7.3135
Comments: 1.0.7.3135

CompanyName:
FileDescription: ac3filter
FileVersion: 1.63b
InternalName: ac3filter
LegalCopyright: Copyright c 2002-2007 by Alexander Vigovsky
LegalTradeMarks: Copyright c 2002-2007 by Alexander Vigovsky
OriginalFilename: ac3filter.ax
ProductName: AC3Filter
ProductVersion: 1.63b
Comments: Direct show audio decoder and processor filter

CompanyName: Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription: DirectShow Runtime.
FileVersion: 6.6.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
InternalName: Quartz.dll
LegalCopyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
LegalTradeMarks: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFilename: Quartz.dll.mui
ProductName: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion: 6.6.7600.16385
Comments: 6.6.7600.16385

CompanyName: Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription: Enhanced Video Renderer DLL
FileVersion: 6.1.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
InternalName: Enhanced Video Renderer DLL
LegalCopyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
LegalTradeMarks: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFilename: evr.dll.mui
ProductName: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion: 6.1.7600.16385
Comments: 6.1.7600.16385

CompanyName: MONOGRAM Multimedia, s.r.o.
FileDescription: AMR Filter Pack
FileVersion: 1, 0, 1, 0
InternalName: mmamr
LegalCopyright: Copyright (C) 2008
LegalTradeMarks: Copyright (C) 2008
OriginalFilename: mmamr.ax
ProductName: MONOGRAM AMR Filter Pack
ProductVersion: 1, 0, 1, 0
Comments: 1, 0, 1, 0

AVI Splitter
Location: C:\Windows\system32\
quartz.dll, Size: 1328640 bytes, Version 6.6.7600.16490

CompanyName: Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription: DirectShow Runtime.
FileVersion: 6.6.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
InternalName: Quartz.dll
LegalCopyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
LegalTradeMarks: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFilename: Quartz.dll.mui
ProductName: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion: 6.6.7600.16385
Comments: 6.6.7600.16385

ource
Location: C:\Windows\system32\
quartz.dll, Size: 1328640 bytes, Version 6.6.7600.16490

CompanyName: Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription: DirectShow Runtime.
FileVersion: 6.6.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
InternalName: Quartz.dll
LegalCopyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
LegalTradeMarks: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFilename: Quartz.dll.mui
ProductName: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion: 6.6.7600.16385
Comments: 6.6.7600.16385

Kiki 31st May 2010 05:34 PM

I try all rendering modes. With Internal rendering DirectDraw surface is the smoothest playing, but with EVR is better picture quality, so i must use EVR.
Maybe AC3 filter make problems, duno....

adicoto 31st May 2010 06:32 PM

So, you have a mess of filters.
First of all, your file is .AVI ? Strange, because usually HD files come in MKV or WMV format. AVI is either XviD or DivX encoded, so MPEG4 decoder DMO should be used to decode the stream. Same if the file is MP4. I find hard to believe you stumbled upon some AVI x264 encoded files.
As for audio part...monogram AMR ? What's doing in here ? HD files are at least 5.1 AC3 audio.
Path to ffdshow...still not posted.
My advice ? Uninstall codecpack. Uninstall BSPlayer. Reinstall BSPlayer and tell NO when downloading filters.
Install CoreAVC, CoreAAC, AC3Filter, Gabest Matroska splitter, Gabest MP4 splitter, dtsac3source.

adicoto 31st May 2010 06:37 PM

File:

Secrets.of.the.Freemasons.720p.HDTV.DD5.1.x264-CtrlHD.mkv

Filters:
Default DirectSound Device
Location: C:\Windows\system32\
quartz.dll,
Size: 1328640 bytes, Version 6.6.7600.16490
CompanyName: Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription: DirectShow Runtime.
FileVersion: 6.6.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
InternalName: Quartz.dll
LegalCopyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
LegalTradeMarks: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFilename: Quartz.dll.mui
ProductName: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion: 6.6.7600.16385
Comments: 6.6.7600.16385

CoreAVC Video Decoder
Location: C:\Program Files\CoreCodec\CoreAVC Professional Edition\
CoreAVCDecoder.ax
, Size: 271872 bytes, Version 2.0.0.0
CompanyName: CoreCodec
FileDescription: CoreAVC DirectShow Video Decoder
FileVersion: 2.0.0
InternalName: CoreAVCDecoder
LegalCopyright: Copyright © 2005-2009 CoreCodec, Inc.
LegalTradeMarks: CoreCodec
OriginalFilename: CoreAVCDecoder.ax
ProductName: CoreAVC Video Decoder
ProductVersion: 2.0.0
Comments: CoreAVC 2.0 (for Windows) | CoreCodec

AC3Filter
Location: C:\Program Files\AC3Filter\
ac3filter.
ax, Size: 577536 bytes, Version 1.3.1.0
CompanyName:
FileDescription: ac3filter
FileVersion: 1.31b
InternalName: ac3filter
LegalCopyright: Copyright c 2002-2007 by Alexander Vigovsky
LegalTradeMarks:
OriginalFilename: ac3filter.ax
ProductName: AC3Filter
ProductVersion: 1.31b
Comments: Direct show audio decoder and processor filter

Matroska Splitter
Location: D:\KIT\Codec\MatroskaSplitter_20070918\
matroskasplitter.ax
, Size: 446464 bytes, Version 1.0.3.0
CompanyName: Gabest
FileDescription: Matroska Splitter
FileVersion: 1, 0, 3, 0
InternalName: Matroska Splitter
LegalCopyright: Copyright (C) 2003-2007 Gabest
LegalTradeMarks: Copyright (C) 2003-2007 Gabest
OriginalFilename: MatroskaSplitter.ax
ProductName: Matroska Splitter
ProductVersion: 1, 0, 3, 0
Comments:

Source
Location: C:\Windows\system32\
quartz.dll,
Size: 1328640 bytes, Version 6.6.7600.16490
CompanyName: Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription: DirectShow Runtime.
FileVersion: 6.6.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
InternalName: Quartz.dll
LegalCopyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
LegalTradeMarks: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFilename: Quartz.dll.mui
ProductName: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion: 6.6.7600.16385
Comments: 6.6.7600.16385

Kiki 1st June 2010 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adicoto (Beitrag 41942)
....My advice ? Uninstall codecpack. Uninstall BSPlayer. Reinstall BSPlayer and tell NO when downloading filters.
Install CoreAVC, CoreAAC, AC3Filter, Gabest Matroska splitter, Gabest MP4 splitter, dtsac3source.

Thank's on your effort!
i will try on that order and i hope it's work :cool
If not, than my proc is weak, think..........

Kiki 1st June 2010 07:26 AM

*dtsac3source

can't find, any suggestions? Can i do without that?

adicoto 1st June 2010 10:37 AM

Yes, you can, but:
Free-Codecs.com :: Download DTS/AC3 Source Filter 1.0.0.2 : DTS/AC3 Source Filter reads and passes DTS and AC3 frames

720p HD in x264 files should work ok with a 2 GHz Pentium 4 CPU or any newer CPU.
You may download some samples from the internet to see for example WMV:

WMV HD Content Showcase


or many others:

The Official HD Video Clip List - High Def Forum - Your High Definition Community & High Definition Resource

Kiki 1st June 2010 11:57 AM

Thats .ax file, duno what with that.
Thank's for pages..... :teeth:

adicoto 1st June 2010 01:28 PM

Copy the file in system32 folder (C:windows\system32) and run "regsvr32 dtsac3source.ax"

Kiki 1st June 2010 03:27 PM

All done, result is awful, Picture is still laging and stucking, and now i have more pixels than ever. :embarassed:
What now?
reminder- RAM 3 GB
- AMD SEMPRON LE-1150 2.00 GHZ
- 32 OPERATING SYSTEM
ATI RADEON 3200

adicoto 1st June 2010 06:50 PM

Filters used ?

Kiki 1st June 2010 07:32 PM

Default DirectSound Device
Location: C:\Windows\system32\
quartz.dll, Size: 1328640 bytes, Version 6.6.7600.16490

CompanyName: Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription: DirectShow Runtime.
FileVersion: 6.6.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
InternalName: Quartz.dll
LegalCopyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
LegalTradeMarks: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFilename: Quartz.dll.mui
ProductName: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion: 6.6.7600.16385
Comments: 6.6.7600.16385

Video Renderer
Location: C:\Windows\system32\
quartz.dll, Size: 1328640 bytes, Version 6.6.7600.16490

CompanyName: Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription: DirectShow Runtime.
FileVersion: 6.6.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
InternalName: Quartz.dll
LegalCopyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
LegalTradeMarks: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFilename: Quartz.dll.mui
ProductName: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion: 6.6.7600.16385
Comments: 6.6.7600.16385

Mpeg4s Decoder DMO
Location: C:\Windows\system32\
qasf.dll, Size: 206848 bytes, Version 12.0.7600.16385

CompanyName: Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription: DirectShow ASF Support
FileVersion: 12.0.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
InternalName: qasf.dll
LegalCopyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
LegalTradeMarks: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFilename: qasf.dll.mui
ProductName: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion: 12.0.7600.16385
Comments: 12.0.7600.16385

AC3Filter
Location: C:\Program Files\AC3Filter\
ac3filter.ax, Size: 797184 bytes, Version 1.3.1.0

CompanyName:
FileDescription: ac3filter
FileVersion: 1.31b
InternalName: ac3filter
LegalCopyright: Copyright c 2002-2007 by Alexander Vigovsky
LegalTradeMarks: Copyright c 2002-2007 by Alexander Vigovsky
OriginalFilename: ac3filter.ax
ProductName: AC3Filter
ProductVersion: 1.31b
Comments: Direct show audio decoder and processor filter

AVI Splitter
Location: C:\Windows\system32\
quartz.dll, Size: 1328640 bytes, Version 6.6.7600.16490

CompanyName: Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription: DirectShow Runtime.
FileVersion: 6.6.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
InternalName: Quartz.dll
LegalCopyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
LegalTradeMarks: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFilename: Quartz.dll.mui
ProductName: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion: 6.6.7600.16385
Comments: 6.6.7600.16385


Source
Location: C:\Windows\system32\
quartz.dll, Size: 1328640 bytes, Version 6.6.7600.16490

CompanyName: Microsoft Corporation
FileDescription: DirectShow Runtime.
FileVersion: 6.6.7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
InternalName: Quartz.dll
LegalCopyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
LegalTradeMarks: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
OriginalFilename: Quartz.dll.mui
ProductName: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
ProductVersion: 6.6.7600.16385
Comments: 6.6.7600.16385

adicoto 1st June 2010 10:17 PM

So, your file is an MPEG4 (xvid or divx, not x264) in AVI container. XviD decoder doesn't work under windows 7. So, either ffdshow, just video MPEG4 support or DivX 5.21 will be useful.

Kiki 2nd June 2010 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adicoto (Beitrag 41958)
So, your file is an MPEG4 (xvid or divx, not x264) in AVI container. XviD decoder doesn't work under windows 7. So, either ffdshow, just video MPEG4 support or DivX 5.21 will be useful.


So you think ffdshow will make things better? What about CoreAVC?

adicoto 2nd June 2010 07:33 AM

1 Attachment(s)
CoreAVC doesn't decode DivX / XviD encoded files. It's specialised in MPEG4-AVC decoding (H264, AVC).

Kiki 2nd June 2010 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adicoto (Beitrag 41962)
CoreAVC doesn't decode DivX / XviD encoded files. It's specialised in MPEG4-AVC decoding (H264, AVC).

Ok ,i will try to install ffdshow. And make properties like on picture on Core AVC. But, if the file (BBC EARTH 2007 HD) is .avi file, than i have problem with avi files to? :sad:
Oh man..........

Kiki 2nd June 2010 03:52 PM

I done everything and the result is the same. Pixels on picture, and lag........... WTF!

adicoto 2nd June 2010 04:16 PM

Picture of CoreAVC it's for CoreAVC, nothing else.

Install ffdshow or DivX 5.21. If you install ffdshow, install just video decoder option, and just for MPEG4 (divx and xvid). Nothing else.
Picture is the same quality...but used filters are the same or not ?

CoreAVC it's used in MP4 and MKV files, encoded with H264 codecs.
You don't have a problem with AVI files, just with HD AVI files.


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