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metiu 29th June 2004 09:13 PM

Subtitles?
 
Hi

I've got big proublem with BSPlayer. I've updated last build (808) with new one (809) and from that moment subtitles are not showing when I play a movie. It's strange but it's true :wink: What can I say: I've got all new codecs and I've tried diffrent way (uninstall BSPlayer + delete the folder than install new version)... I've noticed that happens when I open movie with subtitles type 00:00:00 (h:m:s) I don't know if this bug happens in other type's of subtitles...

lastly sorry for my english :wink: I'm still learning


Metiu

netzah 1st July 2004 08:09 PM

I can confirm that. Subtitles are not shown by .809 on my system. I've got Win2000 SP4 (PL), GeForce 2MX with 29.42 detonators, K-Lite Codec Pack 2.27.
My friend has the same problem, he uses WinXP & RivaTNT, don't other details.

metiu 3rd July 2004 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by netzah
I can confirm that. Subtitles are not shown by .809 on my system. I've got Win2000 SP4 (PL), GeForce 2MX with 29.42 detonators, K-Lite Codec Pack 2.27.
My friend has the same problem, he uses WinXP & RivaTNT, don't other details.

I've got: WinXP, GeForce 4Ti 4200 with 56.72 detonators...
btw. are you from Poland? :)

Metiu

netzah 3rd July 2004 09:34 AM

That's right, i'm from Poland 8)

netzah 3rd July 2004 09:57 PM

Update:
It's not drivers/codes/hardware related. It's subtitle format.

working:
{3668}{3694} txt
{3820}{3937} txt
{3937}{4011} txt

not working:
00:02:27: txt
00:02:44: txt
00:02:47: txt

metiu 4th July 2004 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by netzah
Update:
It's not drivers/codes/hardware related. It's subtitle format.

working:
{3668}{3694} txt
{3820}{3937} txt
{3937}{4011} txt

not working:
00:02:27: txt
00:02:44: txt
00:02:47: txt

Just as I suspect... When build .810 will be ready? :wink:

gircobain 4th July 2004 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by netzah
not working:
00:02:27: txt
00:02:44: txt
00:02:47: txt

And what subtitle format would that be?
I mean, you don't expect BSPlayer to support some weird subtitle format someone decided to come up with, do you?

netzah 4th July 2004 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gircobain
And what subtitle format would that be?
I mean, you don't expect BSPlayer to support some weird subtitle format someone decided to come up with, do you?

I don't know what format would it be, but it was supported by all builds up to 808 and now it's not. So i don't expect BSPlayer to support weird formats, i expect BSPlayer not to remove support for present ones.

adicoto 4th July 2004 08:23 PM

This format is among the most common uncommons. :D . But it was supported. If you don't have the suntitle on a cd, try to convertit using subadjust. Sometimes it makes wonders.

netzah 5th July 2004 03:55 PM

But why the support was removed? :roll:

adicoto 5th July 2004 07:51 PM

Good question.

pozmu 8th July 2004 11:25 AM

It's TMPlayer format, widely used in Poland.
Was removing support for this subtitle format intentionally? If yes... please, tell us why did you do this? If no, please make some type of fix/ patch/ new release.... 809 version support automatic line breaking, which is very improtant for me, but it's useless becouse I can't use my subtitles (most of them are in TMPlayer format)

Thanks

adicoto 8th July 2004 03:13 PM

Probably BST have something in mind. Let's hope all will be solved. Meanwhile, as I posted earlier, if the subtitle is not on cd try to change the format.

pozmu 8th July 2004 04:50 PM

Yes, of course I can convert the subtitles, but it's not a solution (but even you can have subtitles on cd, you can copy converted version to hdd, so this is not a problem).

zrk2002 10th July 2004 09:42 PM

If the problem with tmplayer format subtitles will not be solved in next version of bsplayer I propose to change the name of bsplayer. New name should be : nbsplayer (NOT BEST PLAYER)
rgs.
zrk2002 :!:

adicoto 10th July 2004 10:09 PM

Sorry to say that, but sooner or later, that format will not be supported probably any more. Srt, sub, ssa for text based subtitles are leading the market and are supported even by hardware DivX players.

robertjdb 11th July 2004 07:51 PM

Even though txt files are not the most widely supported formats, I is still annoying that as from 809 BSplayer does not support the subtitle format with time stamps instead of frames anymore.

I have masses of CD's with this format and for me that means that if it is not included in 810, I will stick with 808 or find another player.

It is the most widely used format in Poland and here in The Netherlands it is also very widely used.

It is very easy to change an error in such a subtitle with even a simple application like notepad.

BSPeter 11th July 2004 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robertjdb
annoying that as from 809 BSplayer does not support the subtitle format with time stamps instead of frames anymore.
...............It is very easy to change an error in such a subtitle with even a simple application like notepad.

I would say textbased .srt (SubRip) subtitles represent the overwhelming majority in the Netherlands. Contrary to what you suggest, they are fully supported by BSPlayer. They can be edited easily in e.g. Notepad and surely are based on time: e.g.

1
00:00:25,729 --> 00:00:28,688
Ze zeggen dat Japan gemaakt
is door een zwaard.

2
00:00:31,407 --> 00:00:35,056
Ze zeggen dat de oude goden het
koude staal onderdompelden in de oceaan.

metiu 12th July 2004 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robertjdb
I have masses of CD's with this format and for me that means that if it is not included in 810, I will stick with 808 or find another player.

Exactly - I've got many movies with this format... Maybe Srt, sub, ssa formats are leading the market but BSPlayer Team must think about this little countries such as Poland otherwise BSPlayer won't be the best movie player ever created :( I believe that build 810 will fix that bug!

bst 12th July 2004 11:40 AM

Could you please attach subtitle that don't work here ?
Also file name of movie and subtitle.
Support for this format was not removed.
Only change is that if there is a lot of files in directory player doesn't try to auto load subtitles, because it's very hard to know which subtitle is for which movie and usually have different name than movie.

netzah 12th July 2004 03:51 PM

Sample subtitle:

http://netzah.dotgeek.org/Hellboy.txt

subtitle name: Hellboy.txt
movie name: Hellboy.avi

It doesn't work even if subtitles are loaded manually.
Thanx

netzah 17th July 2004 09:20 AM

It's fixed in new build :D
Thx.
:wink:

robertjdb 19th July 2004 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by netzah
It's fixed in new build :D
Thx.
:wink:

Me very very happy too :D
Will download 810 right away and try it :lol:

mati 21st July 2004 06:47 PM

To BS Team
 
Hi,

There are problems with subtiles in new version also. This is fact that format mentioned below is now suported but subtitles are shown for one second or less. I can't configure that - there is no option.

And another problem with second format. BS don't show subtitles in this format.

Sample:
http://napisy.gwrota.com/pobierz.php?id=747

Any infos, any solutions???

Big Thanks

Mati

netzah 21st July 2004 08:16 PM

Hey.

Try Options -> subtitles -> maximum subtitle display time. It's set to 1000ms by default. I've changed it and it helped.

mati 21st July 2004 09:19 PM

Ohh.... I have tested it 100 times and nothing.... all options

robertjdb 31st July 2004 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mati
Ohh.... I have tested it 100 times and nothing.... all options

I had the same problem. At the moment what I do is:
- load both movie and sub in SubEditPlayer
- change the format of the subs
- save the subs
- play them in BSplayer

That works, but it is a little detour. :?

robertjdb 31st July 2004 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BSPeter
Quote:

Originally Posted by robertjdb
annoying that as from 809 BSplayer does not support the subtitle format with time stamps instead of frames anymore.
...............It is very easy to change an error in such a subtitle with even a simple application like notepad.

I would say textbased .srt (SubRip) subtitles represent the overwhelming majority in the Netherlands. Contrary to what you suggest, they are fully supported by BSPlayer.

Maybe for movies, but not for TV rips.
Serials which aren't yet shown in Holland, like Stargate Atlantis or The Dead Zone have only subs in .txt format.

Maybe later they're also available in srt format, but not from the beginning, unfortunately.


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