No, to the contrary I would say.
I don't know if it may be of relevance in your case.
Sofar we still don't know what rendering mode you're using.
Another question which I have is: did you already try "Draw subtitles to Overlay surface" under
Options > Preferences > Subtitles > [Subtitle properties]?
And further: what type of subtitles are we talking about (see item (9) of my Help2Help-post)?
:wink:

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the rendering mode that i use is "Internal renderer overlay (default)"
in this mode i get subs on tv but can't move them and with another mode i get subs that i can move but not on my tv
the check box "Draw subtitles to Overlay surface" is checked
the type of subs is: x.srt and x.sub same problem with both

please help
 

please help me, i'm so desperate... somthing so simple will be so hard?
in the rendering mode:
one option gives me a moving subs up and down but can't see them on tv(internal rendering DirectDraw)

another option gives me a moving subs that i can see on tv but the movie isn't full screen unless i maximize it in computer(internal render RGB)

another option gives me subs that can move only up and not down to black bar(defult)

Re: please help
 

OK, let's stick to this last option for now (where you can at least move the subs on TV). I think it has now become time to try BSPlayer's feature "Extend picture to" (assuming that you have a 4:3 TV and (e.g.) a 16:9 movie).
In Options > Preferences > Video > [Video rendering] just below the radio-buttons Mode 1 / Mode 2 there is a box offering several possibilities to "Extend picture to". Assuming that in Israel you also have PAL as TV-standard: select "576 lines" (For NTSC it should be 480).
Any result?
:wink:

:(
 

i do that and the subs are in the black bar but the picture is very small
and they still don't goes down
i just want to move them down with a normal picture

Re: :(
 

Do you mean a small picture in an otherwise black TV-screen or ....?
:wink:
Maybe press [5] on numeric keyboard
or
uncheck/deselect "Don't resize video in full screen"
( under Preferences > Video > [General] )

still no change
 

did that....no change the subs are locked and can't goes under 0
in the tv and computer the picture is very small choosing 576 lines

Re: please help
 

...........this wasn't full screen in TV?
:wink:

:)
 

full screen,yes but small picture with black bars very very big :)

as i said in the mode "Extend picture to" i choose 4:3 the movie is very small and the subs are half in the black bar and half in the movie and ca't get them more down, only up
the black bars are bigger in the tv and computer, not like in the picture

:(
 

still many movie look like this when i choose 4:3 in "Extend picture to"

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here is program properties

Try to uncheck the 2 options in the second picture you uploaded (the one for Pan&Scan end the other for remember window size), then redo all the previous tests (remember to press Numpad_5 at least one time) :wink:

:(
 

no change...look like in the picture that i uploaded

:(
 

i just need in the defult option under rendering mode to moving the subs under offset 0
or in the other options under this mode to get the subs on the tv screen in fullscreen
why can't i do this simple thing? i love Bs and don't want to replace it

i see that i'm not the only one with the problem
http://www.bsplayer.com/forum/viewto...?p=21979#21979
http://bsplayer.com/forum/viewtopic....ght=black+bars

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ok...i will wait for next version of BsPlayer :)