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Anthony2816 26th January 2007 04:48 AM

Frame advance
 
Is there a way to step forward and backward through a paused video one frame at a time with BSPlayer?

adicoto 26th January 2007 05:04 AM

Yes. Stop the video by pressing space and then use left/right arrow. This feature depends on the video decoder used to playback the file. Sometimes it doesn't work.

Anthony2816 26th January 2007 08:37 AM

Thanks!

Is it possible to make a skin with buttons for this? I've only found buttons that make it jump 10 seconds in each direction.

Tizio 26th January 2007 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony2816
Thanks!

Is it possible to make a skin with buttons for this? I've only found buttons that make it jump 10 seconds in each direction.

You can make your own skin, or edit an already made skin to fulfill your needs.
Go here and search for a skin of you preference, then (if it hasn't that feature) either follow skin documentation guide or use my SkinMaker to add that feature ;)

Anthony2816 26th January 2007 05:45 PM

I've actually made skins before. I just haven't found button functions to do a frame-by-frame movement like you can with the right and left arrows.

Tizio 27th January 2007 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony2816
I've actually made skins before. I just haven't found button functions to do a frame-by-frame movement like you can with the right and left arrows.

You need to use the Seek backward/forward action :wink:

Anthony2816 27th January 2007 10:49 PM

Thanks, Tizio. I'll look for those functions.

BSPeter 27th January 2007 11:57 PM

As referref to in my Help2Help-post:
http://forum.bsplayer.org/viewtopic.php?p=14574#14574
:wink:
BSP_Rew=14; Seek Backwards
BSP_Forw=15; Seek Forwards

DevilMan 7th March 2007 09:44 PM

I've been problems with that Pause step back/fort.

I remember that different month ago I could it ad will without ANY kind of problems. Now there is no way to make it work with any kind of movie or vids I use.

Any of you have some sudgestion about how to fix that problem? Cause the pause and the little step forth and back was totally aswesome to take clear screens

BSPeter 7th March 2007 10:16 PM

As mentioned under MISCELLANEOUS item "(b) I wish to capture screens, but ... " of my Help2Help-post:
Quote:

Frame by frame?
Pause movie and use right (and left) arrow keys to step through the movie
(Depends also on the possibilities of the decoder/filter used!)
What codec/filter(s) is BSPlayer using when you're experiencing your problems?
(Perhaps read last line of item (3) of my Help2Help-post.)
:wink:

DevilMan 7th March 2007 11:19 PM

I read it already and I understood it's a codec problem but still I would like to understand which one does that and which one does not.

I'm using the fddshow since ages. Long before I never had problems cause I remember that the Pause funcion worked propely, maybe it's the update of the codecs that ruin it?

Should I go back to plain dvix pack?

Tizio 11th March 2007 04:32 PM

I don't know it this can be a solution, but for seek problems sometimes re-registering quartz.dll do the trick..

DevilMan 11th March 2007 05:22 PM

I can try that, can you tell me how to do the re-register?

BSPeter 11th March 2007 06:14 PM

http://bsplayer.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=15157#15157
:wink:

DevilMan 11th March 2007 06:51 PM

Thanks.
Just tried but it's like before, when I pause the video it's just move of one frame ahead and then nothing more. It doesn't move backward, just forth of 1 frame and nothing else...

How I hate that, it was so good to pause and find the right frame to capture :(

Tizio 11th March 2007 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevilMan
Thanks.
Just tried but it's like before, when I pause the video it's just move of one frame ahead and then nothing more. It doesn't move backward, just forth of 1 frame and nothing else...

How I hate that, it was so good to pause and find the right frame to capture :(

When you pause a video you can just go forward from the point where you paused it. Then you'll be able to come back, but only 'till the point where you paused the movie.

If this is not your actual problem, maybe check the Keyboard shortcuts in BS.Player preferences (CTRL+P -> Key definitions & WinLIRC -> Seek Backwards)

DevilMan 11th March 2007 09:51 PM

I know that too.

I was just saying this:

I run a video.
I stop the video.
I can ONLY move a frame forward and cannot even go backward

Dimkom 7th May 2007 09:35 AM

It would be very good to have that feature - to do frame by frame movement forward and backward. Sometimes you really need to play some videos frame by frame. I can remember, a few years ago I was using that feature a lot, but now it doesn't work at all. :(

BSPeter 7th May 2007 09:59 AM

Could you try using "Overlay mixer" as "Rendering mode" under
(rightclick >) Options > Preferences > Video > [Video rendering]
:wink:

Dimkom 7th May 2007 02:22 PM

Yes, I did.
But it works in a different way. It moves forward or backward one by one second, but not frame by frame. :(
Can you guys help me, please? I really need that feature. :wink:

BSPlayer v.2.12 b.941

Tizio 7th May 2007 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimkom
Yes, I did.
But it works in a different way. It moves forward or backward one by one second, but not frame by frame. :(
Can you guys help me, please? I really need that feature. :wink:

BSPlayer v.2.12 b.941

Do you pause the movie before using the arrow keys?

adicoto 7th May 2007 09:25 PM

Testing under an XviD file. Forward works OK, no limits as far as I can see, but back goes only to the keyframe before the stop button was pressed.

BSPeter 7th May 2007 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimkom
It moves forward or backward one by one second, but not frame by frame. :(
...BSPlayer v.2.12 b.941

OK, similar with me with DivX-codec. (and BS.Player 2.21.950). Steps by one second (sometimes two). (Apparently your ffdshow does the same).
:wink:

BSPeter 7th May 2007 10:42 PM

I've meanwhile been trying with older versions and with different settings of video rendering.
E.g. BSPlayer 137.826 has the same result (steps by the second).
Sofar, I've only been able to realize frame-by-frame using BSPlayer 0.86.501! This version is able to indeed flawlessly step frame-by-frame.
(All versions use the same DivX codec).
Sorry it seems I cannot help you any further on this right now.
:wink:

adicoto 7th May 2007 11:02 PM

Tested with an mkv file, x264 video, frame by frame still working OK. Don't have any DivX later than 3.11 video file on my computer to test playback of DivX files using DivX decoder.

Tizio 7th May 2007 11:18 PM

Tested with XviD and DivX movies, paused the video and then moved forward/backward with the arrow keys. NO PROBLEM (XviD and DivX decoders used) ;)

Tizio 7th May 2007 11:22 PM

Another strange behaviour found instead :shock: :o
After I move forward by 1 (or more) frame, then just wait, BSplayer starts moving forward by 1 frame every 5 seconds, just by itself :o :shock:

EDIT:
Test this one and then report, please, I'm really interested into this one :lol:
Good night, I have to sleep, tomorrow will be a loooooong day 8)

adicoto 7th May 2007 11:27 PM

I can confirm this behaviour.

Good night, Tizio. Another 36 hours day ? :D

Dimkom 8th May 2007 12:00 PM

Quote:

Do you pause the movie before using the arrow keys?
yes, I do, but the result is the same - it steps by the second (not frame-by-frame) and it works only if I use Overlay mixer" as "Rendering mode" . Otherwise it doesn't work at all.

BSPlayer v.2.20 v.949
Windows 2000 Pro

BSPeter 8th May 2007 12:07 PM

You have the same problem as I do.
I've tried every possible rendering mode and with several BS.Player-versions yesterday and to-day.
If I use anything else then "Overlay mixer" the screen goes black (it does appear to step frame-by-frame, but only doesn't show it).
The only BSPlayer version which will happily and without any problem (and using the same DivX codec) do frame-by-frame stepping instead of stepping by seconds is (as I wrote before) version 0.86.501.
(You can install this version without any problem together with BSplayer 1.x or 2.x versions by the way; I have!)
:wink:
(P.S.: I'm using Geforce4/Nvidia)

BSPeter 8th May 2007 12:38 PM

In case you want to give it a try, I quote a part of my Help-to-Help post:
Quote:

You can download version 0.86 build 501 here and here.
Some updated language files for build 501! (Deutsch, Finnish, Français, Hrvatski, Magyar, Nederlands, Romanian, Russian, Spanish) can be downloaded here.
With respect to skins, please be aware that whereas BSPlayer 1.x (thanks to its special plugin) can also use version 0.86 skins, this is not so the other way around. (Here are a few skins of my collection.)
:wink:

Dimkom 8th May 2007 01:27 PM

BSPeter, thank you buddy for the old version of BSPlayer, It works! I hope to see that feature in a new version too. :)

BSPeter 8th May 2007 01:30 PM

Glad I was able to help you!
:wink:

Tizio 8th May 2007 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dimkom
BSPeter, thank you buddy for the old version of BSPlayer, It works! I hope to see that feature in a new version too. :)

The problem is that this feature never disappeared since the old 0.8x.... at least to me...

Probably the cause of the problem is the codec used. Can you check if v0.8x and v2.x use the same filters? :?

I doubt it's graphic card related since adicoto (who uses ATI and Intel cards) and I (with Nvidia) haven't this problem, plus it works for both of you with older releases :?

BSPeter 8th May 2007 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tizio
Probably the cause of the problem is the codec used. Can you check if v0.8x and v2.x use the same filters? :?

Yes I can. Actually I did already mention twice that both versions use the same DivX-codec. Same for sound. Unfortunately old version doesn't reveal info on the overlay mixer used. ("Use overlay Mode 1" selected under its preferences).
:wink:

Tizio 8th May 2007 05:43 PM

oops, sorry, missed that info :oops:
Strange, really an odd behaviour :roll:

Tizio 8th May 2007 05:45 PM

Just tried by using DivX decoder (unfortunally I have v6.5 at this time since I had to test a codec pack with that version in it), but I have no problems in playing the movie frame-by-frame :roll:

EDIT:
In my previou post I was referring to XviD and DivX ENCODED movies, instead now I tested with the DivX DECODER :P

BSPeter 8th May 2007 05:46 PM

v2.x uses MS Qdvd.dll (directshow) overlay mixer.
:wink:

adicoto 8th May 2007 05:46 PM

Can you also post wich exact decoding filter it's used ? Wich build of DivX decoder ?

Interlacing, interlacing :lol:

BSPeter 8th May 2007 05:50 PM

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...yerFilters.jpg
Yepp :wink:


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