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Which is better DIVX or XviD when playing .avi file? I've been wondering since any of them can play .avi that are assosciated with them, wouldn't it be better if you just choose either one of them? But then, basing from your experience if the video is encoded with XviD did it look better when playing with XviD as the chosen codec and same with DIVX vice versa?.. Because in my experience between that two most popular codecs when playing .avi files i don't see any difference in quality at all? Or it's just me?... |
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I don't think you will get one and the same answer from users. It may also be a matter of personal preference. I personally still use DivX5.2.1-codec (also to decode XviD encoded movies) though I've also installed XviD-codec (for test purposes). Further I've also installed ffdshow-filter on slower systems. Users like adicoto and Tizio will probably advise for either or both codecs, whereas J7N will, no doubt, advise ffdshow-filter. P.S.: The most important thing is that it works! (and that you don't install to many codecs!)
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:) Since Peter mentioned my name, I can't help. :) So, if you want to play any file on a relatively slow computer, use FFDshow to decode (J7N will also recomend it) or XviD, with no post processing activated. Poor quality, but the files are running. If you play DivX files using XviD decoder and vice-versa, if you want my opinion, haven't seen any difference. Just that DivX interface is more complex and let you alter some post processing options. In my case, brightness/contrast is the most important. Some builds of XviD didn't have this option, so I prefered DivX. But now I use DivX 5.xx to decode DivX 4 and newer, XviD to decode XviD encoded files and DivX 3.11 to decode older files. So, try to use DivX as decoder and XviD as encoder. |
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Cool so I guess it won't matter if you install one or the other or even both of them. Quality and performance wise they are both good and the same. And i personally have both of them now. :P
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I quote the both of them :) I haven't seen any difference in quality when decoding DivX files with XviD codec and vice versa. As adicoto does, I use DivX 5.2.1 to decode DivX 4 and newer, XviD to decode XviD encoded files and DivX 3.11 to decode older files. My PC specs are really low for nowadays standards, but I can decode all movie files without problems with BSplayer and those codecs. I used to use ffdshow, but since they put those systray icons I noticed a little loss of performance and stopped using them.. (probably I was wrong, but now I feel good with only DivX and XviD codecs :P )
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However, if I have Xvid and DivX now wouldn't it cause some conflict if I add ffdshow as my 3rd decoder in which i'll be using it solely for WMA file decoding?.. Or I do need to uninstall either DivX or Xvid to prevent future conflicts from occuring? On the otherhand, is there a way where I can disable all decoding properties which belongs to DivX and XviD and then make ffdshow as purely WMA decoder?.. Is this possible and or a bad idea? Thanks |
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You don't need both, but if you want, you can play with BSplayer's "Filter management" settings to give much priority to filters to decode specific media files
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If you decrease the merits of unneeded filters, it is unlikely they will get loaded. But why to keep those libraries in your system if you don't use them? Ffdshow is a DirectShow interface to the free audio/video processing library "libavcodec", which can decode many formats. It is not a good idea to install it for just one format. I would suggest you to try ffdshow as your primary decoder and then add alternate ones if ffdshow won't satisfy you either with performance, number of features, stability or quality. Quote:
Libavcodec's purpose is to decode audio, the goal of Microsoft, however, is to earn money by protecting. See the difference? If you don't like ffdshow you can uninstall it – the thing you can't do with Windows Media Player. As I wrote before, the installation of newest WMP on one of my computers disabled the playback of unprotected WMA returning a license-related error. Can you tell the error message you get if you try to play these [censored] WMAs? I can upload an unprotected WMA (file removed) to you. If you can play this file, ffdshow will not help you. I've heard that Foobar2000 developers are implementing a WMA decoder, which I hope won't be bitching about licenses and stuff, but it is still not possible for it to ignore DRM. ____ A bit of offtopic Many ppl would disagree but the best thing to do is avoid Windows Media Audio at all costs. There are completely free solutions for every multimedia need you can imagine, either lossy or lossless, low or high bandwidth, low or high complexity, container formats optimizer either for storage or streaming. Protected AAC, WM/ASF, Real cannot provide anything better than the currently available free codecs. Even if the required bitrates were really a bit smaller, is it worth the trouble with DRM, patents and licenses? |
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Many windows users (the large majority) don't bother to search for an alternative to windows movie maker or WMP to encode files. So we do end up with many WMV and WMA files. When you install XP SP2 or WMP 9 and above, you do get the codecs with it. So, the file is playing fine in here: |
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Guys going back to ffdshow, I've tested it to my PC and played to to caious media players. It seems to work fine with my system. Though, in media player classic it cannot decode AC3 files. But to my personal favorite BSplayer and VLC its actually workin perfectly. I've also tried to uninstall Xvid/Divx and AC3 Filter making ffdshow as the sole decoder to all of my video and audio files. Video quality is the same with xvid/divx however the audio quality is not as good as AC3. 1st problem is, it isn't compatible with media player classic with regards to playing dolby digital AC3 files but it could play sound no problem (it just can't detect its dolby digital encoded audio) thus, you still need to install AC3Filter for this player. It won't matter and I wouldn't use media player classic if BSplayer could only play .OGM files and VLC is very choppy when playing .OGM files. Furthermore, VLC don't have support for dolby digital audio yet. So I will be deprived to watch my favorite korean films since my source to it were mostly .OGM files. In the end, I ended up uninstalling ffdshow and reinstalling back AC3Filter because of the single compatibility issue with media player classic. After restarting, I tested playing all my movie files without xvid or divx codec and I was surprised to see "all of my xvid and divx video files were running just fine and normal with all the media players I have." Why is this happening guys? Weird, and as a result I didn't reinstall back XviD nor DivX cause it won't matter anymore, all is playing well. What could be the explanation with this? I clearly uninstall the three (3) codecs Xvid,Divx and ffdshow and restarted my machine. Why are all my video files still running fine and normal? I got hundreds of video files no error so far?.. |
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It happens. Check which codecs/filters BSPlayer really uses for playback. (See last sentence of item (3) of my Help2Help-file.)
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Yes adicoto you are very right; and thanks to BS peter I have able to follow the direction which allowed me to view what codec is indeed running in my system, and it appears to be that avi splitter, quartz.dll indeed. Very nice answer thanks guys! |
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Very nice feedback from you pal. Thanks :D |
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Regarding my .OGM problem with BSplayer awhile ago. I have followed J7N post to install oggds filter and now I have able to watch my .OGM korean titles. Thank you pal for your handy advise! |
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