BSPlayer main window does not appear
 

Hi.
I registered on this forum because I have a problem with BSPlayer. I am using it for a long time and never had any problems until now.
The problem is this: when I press enter on a movie from Total Commander or Explorer, the main window does not show at all. The movie starts to play in it's window, and a button is created on the taskbar for BSPlayer, but the main window is nowhere to be seen. If I press "h" to toggle "Show/Hide the main window", all it happens is the button for BSPlayer dissapears from taskbar and appears in system tray as an icon. Now, I formatted my partition 2 times and reinstalled BSPlayer on a clean system (nothing but BSplayer, ffdshow, video, sound, network drivers), but it's the same problem.
However, I compared 2 movies, both compressed with xvid and 2 channels mpeg layer 3 audio and for one the main window is always shown, for the other is never shown. It looks like a bug to me.

Other infos:
BSplayer Pro 1.37.826
CPU Pentium D 830
Video card GeForce FX6800
Windows XP Pro SP2

All my drivers are the latest versions, so is the BIOS.

I just tried BSplayer Pro 1.32.820 and the main window is shown on any movie. So it's a BSplayer bug.

Had the same problem once when BSPlayer escaped into the extended desktop (TV-out) and the video card remained activated. When I swiched the TV out, BSPlayer didn't come out any more. Found it by swiching from 800x600 on the desktop to 1024x768.

Really the main window disappears only with one kind of file? :shock:
Really strange :?
Have you tried to reinstall BSplayer -> start it -> close it -> delete the .xml file present in BSplayer folder -> restart BSplayer?
Have you selected the option "Remember movie settings" in General preferences?

I hope you can solve your problem :wink:

The main window disappears at some movies, but is visible at others. I can't seem to be able to tell how to reproduce the problem. I was hoping someone here had the same problem and knew what to do. I tried to reinstall BSplayer and delete all it's files, I even formatted the system partition and still the problem persists.

Have you tried to change skin in BSplayer?
Codecs that are used to play the incriminated movies? are the same as for the normal files? always ffdshow? which version? you canhave this information in the Filter menu item of BSplayer..

A solution must be found :)

Haha, I JUST registered to post this exact problem!! On some video files, the main window won't show at all! Upon pressing enter on the file that is.

However:

I found out that there's no problem if I start BSP first and use the open file icon.

Have you small files to post (not copyrighted) that causes this behaviour?
If yes put here the link to the file, so we (and the authors) can try to reproduce the bug.
Thanks, Tizio :wink:

Hi, Octopuss.

Yes, we seem to have the same problem. If I start BSplayer first and then open a file, the main window is visible.

Tizio,
thank you for helping us. The problem is I don't have small files to post here at this time, I will try to find some. I don't use any codecs installed by me, it's a clean Windows XP sp2 install. So I didn't install ffdshow yet, or any other codec pack. So I'm thinking it is a bug in BSPlayer?
Is it ok if I post some names of copyrighted movies? Not links, names.

I'm back.

After some playing with movies and BSplayer, I have noticed that I can't discover a rule on which the main window appears or not. Though I found some small videos, I think there's no point in uploading them, because at the same file, there are times when the window appears, and there are times it doesn't. But I am sure it's BSplayer Pro v1.37.826, as BSPlayer Pro 1.32.820 has no problem from this point of view.

I could use some help here, Octopuss?

hi ThinKing! I don't think that there are problems if you say names of copyrighted materials since this has been done often without problems,but "posting" I think it's another thing :wink:

I always start BSplayer by double-clicking on movie files, and I never experienced nothing like this.. If you can post some files (maybe by PM) I can try to reproduce the issue..

@Octopuss
have you also installed TotalCommander?

Latest news!

BSplayer behaves exactly the same with mp3s. What the hell is going on here?
Tizio, this is one of the weirdest problems. For example, at these songs, the main window is displayed:

ABBA - One of us
Baccara - Sorry, i'm lady
Benny B - Life it's life

At these, there's no window. Because they are songs, I don't have a video window, nor a main window, so no controls at all:

Baccara feat. M. Universal - Yes sir I can't boogie '99
Cyndi Lauper - Girls Just Wanna Have Fun
Cyndi Lauper - Money Changes Everything

However, I don't think this is relevant, if you say you don't have this problem at all.


At these movies, the window is visible:

Crash
Keep Your Distance
The Chronicles Of Narnia The Lion The Witch And The Wardrobe XViD TS-maVen

Here, the window is not visible:

King Kong
serenity
The Constant Gardener (2005)
two.for.the.money.tc.xvid-asteroids

I don't have any codecs installed. I tried to format and reinstall Win XP SP2 and before anything else, even before Total Commander, I installed BSplayer and I still had the problem. Could it be the video driver? Or something else?

Even if main window is not present you can press Alt+3 and see the information window. Does the files have a common thing (like 48.000 Hz audio) ?
Can you open them in VIrtualDub and see wich of them are VBR ?
In filters, can you post here wich filters are used to decode audio and video for all files you've tested ?

Please, when you can, answer to adicoto's questions. :wink:

Probably this will not help, but can you try to see if this program can locate BSplayer Main window?
If yes, which is the position of BSplayer Window? After you click the "Reset BSP Position" does the Main Window appears? Try to press CTRL+R (this will try to redraw BSplayer skin)..

I hope this will help you :) , but as I said probably this will not solve your problem at all :(

I can't tell what files does this happen with at all. The window is presenf but is invisible. This little utility does find the position I think... Well, I run it and it shows some coords... Nothing appears upon pressing reset tho.
I do have Total Commander.
Oh and - this weird behavior keeps bugging me like since ever. With every new version released, I was hoping someone came by this issue and it was fixed. But no :)

And um, I only have DivX and AC3 codecs (filters?) installed. Running XP SP2.

Since you have TotalCommander too, I think that the posted issue can be related to this. I'll try to install TC and see if I can reproduce the bug.
Can you tell me you OS please? Win 9.x or ME or XP etc.?

Well, I tried to run different files (about 100) from TC, of different types (.avi, .mpg, .wmv, . ogm, .mp3) and I had no problems at all. :?
I ran TC under Windows ME, this evening (now here are 3.30PM) I'll try TC under Windows XP with SP1 and I'll report my test results.

Have you updated also your Video Drivers?
If you change skin the problem persists?

The behaviour described by you 2 guys is really strange. If you can please answer also to adicoto's answer, it could be of interests for you and also for BSplayer staff.

Tizio :wink:

Hi all.

To adicoto (o sa vorbesc in engleza sa ma inteleaga toata lumea :) ):
These movies show the main window:

Crash (xvid, mpeg layer III, 2ch, 48000 Hz)
Keep Your Distance (xvid, mpeg layer III, 2ch, 48000 Hz)
The Chronicles Of Narnia (xvid, mpeg layer III, 2ch, 44100 Hz)

These don't:

King Kong (xvid, mpeg layer III, 2ch, 48000 Hz)
serenity (xvid, mpeg layer III, 2ch, 48000 Hz)
The Constant Gardener (2005) (xvid, mpeg layer III, 2ch, 48000 Hz)
two.for.the.money.tc.xvid-asteroids (xvid, mpeg layer III, 2ch, 48000 Hz)

Frankly, I can't seem to notice much of a difference, but BSplayer seems to have it's own way of choosing movies. Maybe it's by content... :lol:

To Tizio:
Ok, you gave me an important clue: the main window is displayed if I press CTRL+R as you suggested. I think the window may have been there all the time, only it was invisible.
As for the program, it does not help too much, the window does not appear when I click Reset BSP position. However, the position is resetted, because if I press CTRL+R, now the window is in the upper left corner of the screen.

Thank you all for helping me out here. I really appreciate it.
So now we found the problem and I think it is BSplayer's problem: shouldn't the developers fix it?

I'm glad that at least the Ctrl+R thing worked... :D

Can you answer also to my last question: "If you change skin does the problem persists?"

I think it's hard for BSplayer developers to fix this issue since it's hard for all (we and them) to exactly reproduce this bug, and so it's hard to find a solution.. We have to find the REAL cause before they can fix it :wink:

:lol: To speak in english so everybody will understand you? Yes, you're right :wink:

@ Tizio.
So, you've been taking intensive romanian lessons and didn't tell nothing ? :))

@ThinKing
Daca nu vorbeai in engleza oricum traduceam eu ca sa priceapa toata lumea, asa e corect. Desi uneori e mai bine, gradul de intelegere exacta al problemei este mai mare atunci cand vorbesti nativ aceeasi limba.
If you wouldn't write in english I would translate it anyway so anybody could understand, that's fair. Sometimes is better to use the same language, it is easy to understand ourselves in our mothertongue.

Cred ca totul provine de la modul cum au fost codate filmele (toate sunt XviD-dar care versiune)si de modul de afisare in overlay, cel al imaginii ascunzand de fapt pe cal al ferestrei principale. Serenity de ex eu il am XviD cu AC3 la 48.000 si nu as putea face comparatia. Singura incercare pe care ti-as mai recomanda-o ar fi sa schimbi modul de randare video, dela overlay implicit la directdraw si apoi VMR9. Apoi as dezinstala XviD si as instala DivX cu optiunea de decodare a tuturor fisierelor MPEG4.

I think that all came from the way the movies were encoded. All are XviD (but wich build ?) and the way it handles the overlay, maybe the video rendering overlay is hiding the one for the main window. For example I have Serenity in XviD with AC3 48.000 so I can't compare. Last thing to try is to swich between video rendering methods, from internal renderer to directdraw and VMR9. And after that, uninstall XviD and install DivX with generic MPEG4 support.

I don't think this should solve the problem, because audio files give also soome errors, but this is clearly (to me) related to the codec used to play the file. I also suggest to install an alternate MPEG decoder, to be more speciffic Elecard, and see exactly what kind of audio compression the files have.

THinKing, da-mi un mail sau intra pe YM, iti dau eu un elecard.

:D Not really, but Internet is a good teacher, and some words are not so hard to undertand since have similarities with Italian (not many, but some are similar) :wink:

Some 2000 years ago, latin language was speaked in both our countryes. Since then....
Cioa, Tizio, sono come fratelli, di una mama ma di un altre papa. :)

OFFTOPIC

:lol: da, ai dreptate. dacă roman a domni zilele noastre poate vorbesti in latin :D

(it was a bit hard to write this sentence, and I'm sure that the verbs are not right conjugete, but our fater is different ;) )

Yes, we used to learn latin in school (aquila volare, delfinum natare docent).
We still have:
aquila-acvila (q-cv in latin)
delfinum-delfin
natare~natatie

It's interesting to compare latin based languages. I do talk a lot of french nowadays due to the specific of my work, and I find more and more similar words. Even spanish has many words easy to understand.

Maybe my verbs were also wrong conjugated :D in italian, but I hope we both understand the ideea. :wink:

wow, I didn't expected so many similarities between our languages and for me too it's pretty simple to understand some french and spanish words, but since they are all latin based.. :wink:
thank you for your elucidations on latin <-> romanian relationships

To conclude and to close the offtopic side of this topic :))

In bocca lupo
In gura lupului

bocca=gura
lupo=lup

and the message is the same. Not a good place to go. :D

Here in Italy the meaning of "In bocca al lupo" is Good Luck :wink: and the answer is "Crepi!" = shall he die
Ok, OFF TOPIC closed :D

might as well be skin problem, cause ctrl+r works. I am using PhantomLORD´s Showtime v1.4 (+full screen skin)

Have you tried with other skins?

Hi all!

I have read all that you write and what can I say! I am glad I have found some really nice friends here.
As my fellow countryman, adicoto, said the Italian, Spanish and Romanian languages have common roots in latin. Many words are still recognizible in the other languages.

As for the BSplayer's problem, I use the default skin, "base", and I have installed ffdshow-20051221-gcc4.0.2-sse-x264.nl.exe.
When I changed the skin, I noticed the BSPlayer's window appear even at movied I have said it didn't (like King Kong (xvid, mpeg layer III, 2ch, 48000 Hz)
serenity (xvid, mpeg layer III, 2ch, 48000 Hz)
The Constant Gardener (2005) (xvid, mpeg layer III, 2ch, 48000 Hz)
two.for.the.money.tc.xvid-asteroids (xvid, mpeg layer III, 2ch, 48000 Hz) )

The skin I set is Mediabox v-2. It's one of the skins BSplayer comes with. But I looked among the skins on the site and I choose BSmetal and MC-2w (I like straight forward skins - simple is better) and I see there is also no problem in displaying the main window. Could the base skin have a bug?

:)

I doubt that the problem resides in the Base skin, but tomorrow I'll look at the code (but I'm pretty sure it's all correct). Probably the cause can reside in skin engine.

Try to use new BSplayer v1.38 and let us know if the problem persists :wink:

With the new version, I think the problem is solved. I will keep testing it for a while. I am curious Tizio, what was the problem?

I don't really know... I looked at the base skin code and it seems that all it's ok, maybe a skin engine bug, or caodec compatibility issue or...a your system problem I-don't-know-how fixed with the new version :roll:

Have you tried to build .BSZ skin from Base one and seen if the problem persisted?
If you don't know how to make a .bsz skin you can use my program BSP SkinMaker (link in my sign)..

Still a reeeeeally strange bug for me :P

many thanks to the Q
 

I had same problem.
The audio is on, but the window-screen is not visible. If pressing [F] key from keyboard, is calling the full screen function and the movie is visible on my screen. This is a problem half resolved.
The full resolved problem is like this:
Enter into your [Display Settings] - and when you see the monitor 1 and monitor 2 rectangles (assuming you have 2 monitors) switch them by dragging one in front of another. Dont forget to press Apply. Open your bsplayer. If the window-screen is showing, just drag it to the other monitor. Now close the bsplayer. Switch back the monitors into the original position. Start bsplayer again. You should have your window-screen in the right place now.

I think(but i didnt do it yet), by unplugging the cord of the second monitor and starting the bsplayer while you have a Single monitor working, should do the trick just fine. Move the bsplayer-window-screen a bit just to register other coordinates in its initialization file. Close the player. Plug in back the second monitor and it should appear in its correct position on screen.

The last option(also not tried) is to get the initialization file, search for your movie name inside it, delete all the saved properties for that movie name, and you basically have the movie as it was never played before by your player. Save the file!

HOW TO FIX ALL WINDOW ISSUES
 

Very late to the party but I know how to resolve your issues with windows missing without doing reinstalls...

- Close BSPlayer if open
- Go to BSPlayer folder
- Go into the folder "insfiles"
- Open the file "BSPlayer.xml" with notepad
- Find the lines...

<PlayWinPos type ="int">###</PlayWinPos>
...for the video window...

<MainWinPos type="int">###</MainWinPos>
...for the main window.

In both cases the ### number is the location of the window in terms of on-screen pixels (I assume). So if you replace the number with say "1", then save the file, when you open BSPlayer the window should have moved.

(You'll likely need admin access to the folder if it won't let you save.)