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azkme 6th July 2008 09:08 PM

[VISTA] Blurry subtitles
 
Hi,

I've been looking for a solution for a while now, but I didn't found any so I hope you guys can help me out.

Since I installed Vista the BSPlayer subtitles look blurry and just not as good as the subtitles were in XP. I tried some options but none of them changed the subtitles to a way I liked them.

Here are 2 screenshots to explain the problem:

XP: http://users.telenet.be/azkme/pics/test.jpg - Nice, normal subtitles

Vista: http://users.telenet.be/azkme/pics/test2.jpg - Not that smooth, looks like a CAM or a TS subtitle, if you make them smaller the quality is even worse (I can barely read the subtitles when they have size 12 or less).

With the same options, the Vista subtitles look bolder, blurrier and much "into" the movie than the XP ones.

Someone who knows why and/or knows a solution so I can enjoy my movies back? :)

Thanks in advance!

J7N 6th July 2008 10:07 PM

Re: [VISTA] Blurry subtitles
 
You have poor resolution video and are drawing the subtitle directly on this picture. When the video is later upsampled for display in fullscreen subs are processed in the same way (because now they're part of the video). On your WinXP machine subs are drawn over the video and always output 1:1 pixels without upsampling (if you want you can control the font size in pt).

There is an option in preferences to change between the two modes: Draw subtitles to overlay surface. I don't know if it has an effect in Vista.

adicoto 7th July 2008 04:54 AM

1. Go to options->preferences->subtitle and disable "resize OSD and subtitle font automatically"
2. Wich rendering method it's used options->preferences->video, the right hand label "video rendering" Does swiching this tu EVR or VMR9 does change the quality ?

azkme 7th July 2008 01:29 PM

none of the solutions seem to change a thing :( ah well, I'm going to create a dualboot vista/xp so I won't have the problem anymore ..

thanks for the replies, M$ is the one to blame :(

J7N 8th July 2008 01:08 AM

Maybe the developers of BSPlayer put dirty workarounds in to get video to display satisfactory at all on Vista...

pagh 7th August 2008 03:15 PM

any solution :?:

i really hope there is.

this is really a big problem for me. when i used xp, BS player was the very best video player, now i got vista and then the subtitle really sucks in BS player.. it is way to pixelated :(

J7N 7th August 2008 06:47 PM

There is a workaround. Give up BS.Player and use ffdshow in combination with another player. If you have fast enough computer, you can resample the image in software and get this perfect quality.

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/1...ab06713cp8.jpg

airman 7th August 2008 09:19 PM

If you have a good machine, in Vista the video rendering option (Options - Preferences - Video - Video Rendering - Rendering Mode) will be set on EVR (Enhanced Video Renderer) and this causes BS Player to work in Aero mode, so the subtitles are crapy and you can't set them below 0 on position offset.

When i chose "Internal Renderer Overlay (default)" the subtitles were like in XP and you can position them whereever you want, but the BS Player doesn't work in Aero mode anymore.

P.S. When i selected "Internal Renderer DirectDraw surface" Bs Player worked in aero mode and the subtitles were like in XP but some times it stops working in 2 seconds after opening a movie.

Hope this helps.
Good luck.

pagh 8th August 2008 12:59 PM

thx airman it works perfect now :D:D

i almost love you :lol:

airman 9th August 2008 09:13 AM

Anytime.

azkme 9th September 2008 10:26 PM

thanks a LOT airman, you fixed my problem! 8)


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