I need help getting Ctrl-B (next chapter) to work!

[timmy2]

No response from support or this forum so I gave up. Switched to a different player.

[Cela]

Originally Posted by timmy2

No response from support or this forum so I gave up. Switched to a different player.

A different player? You found a player with high priority chapter support? Where makers, support and users appreciate that feature, assign high priority to it and you get quick response? Please share your knowledge!

Did you try this?
(This was may learning by example.)
1. Alt+I ... Add bookmark // add several bookmarks
2. Ctrl+Alt+I ... Edit bookmarks // and add annotation text to each bookmark
3. Use option Export bookmarks as chapters // you get a .chf chapter file
4. Now you have 2 files in your media file folder:
mediafile.mp4 ... or mkv, m2ts,ts,... mpa, mp3, mp2, ...
mediafile.chf ... chapter file
5. Learning by example:
Now you can see the syntax.
Example (default format):
[CHAPTERS]
1=00:00:00 Live Show
2=00:02:46 Intro
3=00:04:45 Part1
4=01:21:14 Exit 1
5=01:21:15 The End

Example (extended format):
[CHAPTERS]
1=00:00:00.000 Live Show
2=00:02:46.760 Intro
3=00:04:45.320 Part1
4=01:21:14.240 Exit 1
5=01:21:15.560 The End

Example for 'nice' chapter selection menu:
[CHAPTERS]
1=00:00:00.000 1 01 Live Show
2=00:02:46.760 2 02 Intro
3=00:04:45.320 3 03 Part1
4=01:21:14.240 4 04 Exit 1
5=01:21:15.560 5 05 The End
will produce chapter selection menu:
01 Live Show
02 Intro
03 Part1
04 Exit 1
05 The End

Note: Mandatory syntax elements
[CHAPTERS]
1=<timecode> <optional annotation text>
2=...

Feature request:
I would prefer a version without the superfluous syntax elements!
Simply this:
<timecode> <optional annotation text>
00:00:00.000 Live Show
00:02:46.760 Intro
...
This conveniently simple format should be also implemented!
If it makes BSplayer happy, keep
[CHAPTERS]
but get rid of the
1=
2=
parts!
(I bet BPsplayer could count the chapter lines 1,2,3... itself.)

Feature request:
Chapter feature for BSplayer Android! ASAP!
Reuse .chf file on smartphone and tablet.
Chapter feature not yet working in BSplayer Android!

P.S.
Since I know how it works I understand the manual:
C:\Program Files\Webteh\BSplayerPro\doc\ini_files.html?

[adicoto]

I have just 1 file with embeded chapters and it's working fine, no problems here.

[Cela]

Originally Posted by adicoto

...just 1 file with embeded chapters ...no problems...

Very exciting! Very interesting!
Sounds like "Life is good", "Yes we can",...
Happy you!

If we had your knowledge, we would not ask for help in this forum. We would be happy too and would have no problems either.

Please share your precious knowledge how you became happy with chapters in BSplayer Windows and Android?

Please be more specific!
Which kind of file? mp4? m4a? ... or DVD? BD? AVCHD?
Which kind of chapters? How is that file prepared?

If you have an AVCHD camcorder recording "my2012vacation.m2t" and regarding chapters, a list of time values with annotation texts,
e.g.
00:00:00.000 Vacation 2012
00:02:46.760 Venice...
00:37:22.000 Rome...
etc.
and you want quick chapter navigation to these points of interest in your video? I use the chf feature (which I strongly miss in the Android BSplayer app).

How do you prepare your 1 file solution? Does it also work in Bsplayer Android?

Please, provide more details. Link to manual? Link to additional reading?

Thanks!

P.S. I use Dean's multiAVCHD to embed my chapters into an AVCHD (BD)structure. But that is not a 1 file solution. The chapters get integrated within the AVCHD folder structure. Furthermore, BSplayer cannot play the AVCHD/BD structure but only the m2ts stream files. AFAIK there are not many players which can play AVCHD or BD structures in Windows and I know no one to play AVCHD/BD structures on Android (or iOS) phones and tablets. Therefore a good 1- or 2-file solution is very important.

[adicoto]

I am glad to see your response, that way some things get clarified and your specific need it's clear.
My file, my friend, is an MKV with embeded chapters and it's working fine. It's not my creation, it's just downloaded from internet. As far as I know, MKV merge can do that with no problems.
Unfortunately I don't have such a camcorder, and can't help you with testing such files or features. If you can prepare such a file of a small size (up to 1 GB) and post it to a file transfer service (transfer.ro, fastupload.ro or an international service similar to) I wil be glad to test it and maybe come up with ideas. As far as I know, BSPlayer should support playback of such files (I see it's stated on BSPlayer's page).
Android support for chapters I know it's on TODO list of BSPlayer's developpers. But I will also move my only file to an SD card and try on android BSPlayer and see the results.

[Cela]

Originally Posted by adicoto

...MKV with embeded chapters and it's working fine...
...MKV merge can do that with no problems...
... I wil be glad to test it and maybe come up with ideas. As far as I know, BSPlayer should support playback of such files (I see it's stated on BSPlayer's page)...
... Android support for chapters I know it's on TODO list of BSPlayer's developpers...
... But I will also move my only file to an SD card and try on android BSPlayer and see the results.

Sounds like very good news! I am very happy with your explanation. Thank you very much!
I really appreciate your help very much!
Maybe, timmy2, the original poster, would have been happy too and would have become a BSplayer friend like me.

All files (as stated on BSPlayer's page) PLAY very well in Windows and Android.
Chapter navigation in BSplayer Android is my main concern.

Thanks for your offer to test my camcorder files. No need to test. These files PLAY well in BSplayer Windows and BSplayer Android!
The chapters issue in BSplayer for Android can be tested and reproduced with any video file.

Please help with further details!
Please give me the link so that I can download your mkv file (which you downloaded from the internet), so that we can discuss the same mkv file sample.

I am no friend of embedded MKV chapters.
As you see from my postings, I am a friend of a _simple_, separate, accompanying chapter file.
Of the kind which is supported by BSplayer Windows since a very long time, at least since year 2002! (When I prepared my answer to timmy2's original posting, I noticed in my ChapterXtractor v.092 from 5/2002(!) that it came with a BSplayer chf preset!)

Please help me double check:
1. With "...I have just 1 file with embedded chapters and it's working fine, no problems here..." you mean that you can Ctrl+B navigate your embedded MKV chapters in BSplayer for Windows? and BSplayer for Android?
Note: mkv files, for me too, are also are "working fine" in the sense of that they "play well", with BSplayer Windows and BSplayer Android.
Exception:_ chf_chapter navigation does not work in my BSplayer for Android!
You say, the embedded MKV chapter _navigation_ works well in your BSplayer for Windows?
And in BSplayer for Android?

2. MKV merge: Back in 2010, I already tried "mkvmerge GUI (MKVtoolnix) v3.1.0 Jan 19 2010". But I could not test the resulting embedded chapters. In these days I did not find any SW and HW video player that served the embedded chapters. (Well, I did not try it with BSplayer in these days. It was last year that BSplayer Android came to my attention, and some time later made me buy BSplayer Windows too!)
So I gave up with MKV merge and did not become a friend of embedded mkv chapters.
(Then I found multiAVCHD. Besides many other fine features it also provided chapter support and converted simple chapter time and annotation input to Blu-ray Disk and AVCHD embedded chapters, working well not only in some Windows software players and in standalone BD players but also in special HW players like PS3 and Popcorn Hour.) Now, I am willing to try it again.

3. Please give me a link to your MKV file with embedded chapters. I would like to base my further experiments with mkv merge on comparing with a working embedded MKV chapters example. (My failure with embedded mkv chapters back in 2010 could have been due to not correctly using mkv merge. It may help me to verify my way of "mkv merge" embedding chapters into the media file.)

4. Android support for chapters ... on TODO list of BSPlayer's developers: Which chapter support? chf file chapters? Embedded MKV file chapters? Or both?

Though, my main focus remains on _chf_like chapters in a _simple_, separate, accompanying chapter file!

adicoto, I really appreciate your help very much! With your help: "Yes, we can"