OGM - Please, help me make it work!

[Arioch]

I have been fiddling with windows, codecs, splitters, filters, players etc. for two days now trying to get playback of OGM files to work.
It used to work, but then one file with subtitles just caused BSPlayer to crash, and I began trying to fix it. Now I can not play OGM files at all without any problems.

My setup:
- Win XP Pro English
- FFDShow 20060420 SSE
- DivX 5.02
- Xvid 1.1
- Haali Splitter
- VobSub 2.23 (I have tried so many versions of VSFilter that I can not remember them all, they do not work).

The above lets me play .mkv files. The problem comes when I add the following.

Situation 1: OGGDS 0.9.9.5 + VSFilter (or VobSub) - Crashes BSPlayer. MPC displays subtitles, but sound is scratchy and full of noise.

Situation 2: OGGDS 0.9.9.6 + Ogg Vorbis Encoder/Decoder Filter (new addon to 0.9.9.6) + VSFilter (or VobSub) - BSPlayer works, but does not display the Subtitles. MPC displays subtitles but sound is scratchy and full of noise.

Situation 3: Replaced OGGDS with Radlight OGG Directshow filter. And BSPlayer works, but I do not get any subtitles, in BSPlayer or MPC. GraphEdit shows that the Subtitles are being forwarded to "Internal Command Script" and only occassionally does the players display some characters of subtitles.

[Tizio]

Have you tried the Situation 4: OggDS 0.9.9.5 ONLY ?

[Arioch]

Originally Posted by Tizio

Have you tried the Situation 4: OggDS 0.9.9.5 ONLY ?

Yes, and then I get no subtitles, and I can not play mkv files. And even without any other filter, BSPlayer tries to play the subs, and crashes.

[adicoto]

Maybe changing from Haali MKV splitter to Gabest will help. We did get some errors about Haali media splitter and mkv files lately.

[Arioch]

Originally Posted by adicoto

Maybe changing from Haali MKV splitter to Gabest will help. We did get some errors about Haali media splitter and mkv files lately.

I have thought about this too, and I have searched on the net for the Gabest splitter, but I am unable to find it. The official page is unavailable (at least for me). I get a 404 or something like that error.

[Arioch]

Managed to find Gabest Matroska Splitter, and installed that. MKV files works perfectly, as they did with the Haali splitter too.

Only problem now is that I have no DirectShow filter that works for ogm. I can use Media Player Classic, but that is about it. And unfortunately that player does not really cut it for me.

If I install OGGDS 0.9.9.5 again, to handle OGM files, I still have the same problem as before. So what I really need is a way to play OGM through some other filter than OGGDS 0.9.9.5 / 0.9.9.6 or Radlights latest version.

[Arioch]

Installed Gabest Ogg Splitter 1.0.0.0 but BSPlayer still crashes when I tries to view an OGM file. Any suggestions?

[adicoto]

Can you, by any chance post here or send by email a piece of one of the file that crash your BSPlayer ?
You can cut a piece using VirtualDubMod. If you need assistance with this, post here, or search on the forum.

[Arioch]

Originally Posted by adicoto

Can you, by any chance post here or send by email a piece of one of the file that crash your BSPlayer ?
You can cut a piece using VirtualDubMod. If you need assistance with this, post here, or search on the forum.

No, it would normally not be a problem. But after virtualdubmod is finished parsing the OGG streams, the subtitles dont work anymore,and as such, the file plays just fine if I save it, just that there are no more subtitles.
Exactly why this is so, I can not say. Using VirtualDubMod to cut a piece of the file does not work, since VirtualDubMod does something to destroy the streams.
In itself, I suppose this is a clue. But to what, I do not really know.

Update: Hmm, with the Gabest OGG Splitter installed, I am finally able to play the OGM files at all in BSPlayer, as long as I do not try to enable the subtitles.....

Update2: BSRendv2.dll is the file it points to when BSPlayer crashes. But I can not find what is really causing it.

[Arioch]

Hmm, the internal OGG filter of MPC has no problem with the subtitles. So what is the difference? is there any other subtitle filters than VobSub/VSFilter to try?

[adicoto]

In VirtualDubMod, using direct stream copy you don't get any more subtitles ? If you save the subtitle stream only, can you tell what type is (srt, sub, ssa) ?

[Arioch]

Originally Posted by adicoto

In VirtualDubMod, using direct stream copy you don't get any more subtitles ? If you save the subtitle stream only, can you tell what type is (srt, sub, ssa) ?

I have not done this muc before, but only format it allows me to save it to, is .srt.

It looks lite this (the beginning of it);
1
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,661
Well, it's done.

2
00:00:01,661 --> 00:00:02,457
Kenshin!

3
00:00:02,457 --> 00:00:03,458
Damn, that looks good!

4
00:00:03,458 --> 00:00:04,259
I'm gonna dig in!
Damn, that looks good!

5
00:00:04,259 --> 00:00:05,055
I'm gonna dig in!

6
00:00:05,055 --> 00:00:05,953
Yahiko, that's...

7
00:00:05,953 --> 00:00:07,443
If you don't hurry up and eat...

8
00:00:07,443 --> 00:00:08,808
That's mine!

[Arioch]

http://forum.bsplayer.org/viewtopic.php?p=26019#26019

Someone else had problems with this, and solved it. It worked like a charm for me too :)

Thank you all for your help.