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Switching to zoomplayer.
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I think it's not fair! Full version is 29.90 and "upgrade" will be 19.90 according to one time payment as stated. The term "One-time" got whole new meaning by Webteh.

You CAN NOT charge for upgrade if you don't offer patches for older versions which seems to be completely gone so Webteh is forcing users to upgrade instead.

Some users prefer to use older version rather than jump to untested new one. Where is 1.X latest build available? If I payed for 1.X (since you decided version 2 is different product), then I expect 1.X to be available for download in case of disk or other failure.

Somehow it doesn't seem right, don't you think?
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A lot of thinks in life is not fair.

Let me tell what is not fair :
- we are paying a lot of money for servers
- we are paying a lot of money for bandwith
- we are paying a lot of money for development

That's not fair.
Maybe you would like to see us stop developing BSplayer ?
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It's absolutely better to maintain these prices if the alternative is to stop BSplayer development, but in my opinion they are too high, especially for last year v1 Pro users (for the others it should be anyway a good alternative), but (IMHO) at least y2006 v1 Pro users should have a free v2 upgrade..

But it's also true that BSplayer team members have spent many time and money in this project, so they must have an income for this great work.

I think that users and developers should meet eachother in a compromise.

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Some users prefer to use older version rather than jump to untested new one. Where is 1.X latest build available? If I payed for 1.X (since you decided version 2 is different product), then I expect 1.X to be available for download in case of disk or other failure.
You can find almost all BSplayer version here
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A lot of thinks in life is not fair.
So you agree? :)

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But it's also true that BSplayer team members have spent many time and money in this project, so they must have an income for this great work.
I know they put a lot of time and effort in bsplayer. But they should not have started selling their product by advertising a "One time payment", and then later change that. I know I haven't bought myself a "subscription" (or even only a license for v1.x) to bsplayer but a license for bsplayer pro.
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hmm...

talking about fairness to grab money? huh

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business welldone :lol:
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I think it's not fair! Full version is 29.90 and "upgrade" will be 19.90 according to one time payment as stated. The term "One-time" got whole new meaning by Webteh.

You CAN NOT charge for upgrade if you don't offer patches for older versions which seems to be completely gone so Webteh is forcing users to upgrade instead.
I also bought BSplayer Pro primarily because it was a one time payment, I didn't buy it to avoid the adware/spyware because it wasn't in it at the time.
I actually didn't want the pro features at the time but purchased it more as an appreciation for the work the developers were putting into a player that I believed was the best video player on the internet.
I have actually stopped using BSplayer due to some of the latest bugs and unfortunately can't go back to the last working version.
I am a bit dissapointed that Pro users are being expected to pay again.

Mat2000, maybe you could actually explain to us what a "One time" payment actually means, because I think many people around here believed it to be something completely different to your interpretation?
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Tizio, your link is to dvd.box.sk and not to BSPlayer's site, where all paying customers should find the posibility to download at least 2-3 old version. People don't get support from dvd.box.sk
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I know, but since this is the only possibility.. I posted that link..
I have all the BSplayer versions except for these (don't know if they were released, I was not yet a BSplayer user before 2000):
0.1 0.2 0.3 0.4 0.41 0.5 0.51 0.52 0.6 0.61 0.62 0.63 0.7
So I don't have problems, but many old users do have...

But I don't think BSplayer team members will provide v1.x versions since it will be controproducent for the WhenU thing.. Maybe they'll can provide v1.4x links, but I don't think that there's someone out there interested in one of those 2 versions.. :?
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Maybe they must be aware of that problem, the support they must provide for the customers, at least for the paying ones.
Me, as a non-paying customer, I can't ask for that.
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Oops, I forgot v1 Pro userss... You are absolutely right!
They should still provide v1 Pro download links to the ones that bought v1!!
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I am not in this situation but I'm just curious.. What about people who bought v1 pro one month ago ? This is insane !
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I wrote several PMs to the authors, so they know the seituation (now also regarding missing v1 Pro download links), so they have to plan their new policy by taking all these information into account..

I made them notice also the fact that there are customers that bought BSplayer Pro v1 just few weeks before v2 had been released, so they WILL NOT AND MUST NOT pay for a v2 upgrade (and in my opinion also AT LEAST one year old Pro users should be able to upgrade to v2 without additional costs..)

But unforunally this software is not mine, but their.
So the last decision it to them.

I hope they'll do the right thing, and in the same time not stop BSplayer development..
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Quote:
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I actually didn't want the pro features at the time but purchased it more as an appreciation for the work the developers were putting into a player that I believed was the best video player on the internet.
Same here.

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Mat2000, maybe you could actually explain to us what a "One time" payment actually means, because I think many people around here believed it to be something completely different to your interpretation?
Yes, Mat2000 please elaborate on that.

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I made them notice also the fact that there are customers that bought BSplayer Pro v1 just few weeks before v2 had been released, so they WILL NOT AND MUST NOT pay for a v2 upgrade (and in my opinion also AT LEAST one year old Pro users should be able to upgrade to v2 without additional costs..)
That wouldn't be fair to the older registered users who bought their pro license under the same conditions as those who bought it a month ago, now would it?
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I also remember that a few days ago, somebody wanted to "pre-order" v2.0

Somebody else adviced him (I don't remember who, but he's not the one to blame, that's for sure) to order v1 and upgrade to v2 when it's released. :lol:
If he did, he must be pissed off!
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http://forum.bsplayer.org/viewtopic.php?t=8637
And he was the first BSplayer Pro v2 customer
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And he was the first BSplayer Pro v2 customer
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I don't think so, he is not the only one who bought BSplayer v2 and I don't see the necessity to raize a possible accuse against him to be the one who leaked the BSplayer Pro v2
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I don't think so, he is not the only one who bought BSplayer v2 and I don't see the necessity to raize a possible accuse against him to be the one who leaked the BSplayer Pro v2
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply anything by that...
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Don't worry, it's just to make the things clear
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