[CONFIRMED] Wrong Decimal Separator in Subtitle Editor

[Ico-man]

Too bad you didn't report it earlier. Try upcoming version of BS.Player

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Originally Posted by Ico-man

Too bad you didn't report it earlier. Try upcoming version of BS.Player

Does this mean that you have tracked it as a bug? If so, yes, I will.

I have not reported it earlier because a) I never could be asked to register on the forum to report it b) I never used the editor that much c) by the time I wanted to report it I had fixed the odd file produced with notepad - but mostly because I was usually using Bsplayer, which accepts "wrong" files and thought that videolan was wrong to reject them. I only just got around to checking the specs and investigating. My Bad

[adicoto]

Just loaded an sub file and saved it as srt. No problems, ","it's used. Is it possible that BSPlayer reads OS regional settings and act depending on it ? As there is a decimal separator, it will be used according to OS regional settings, isn't it so ? Rather than the correct usage which says: ","it's used, as the software was developped in France

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Originally Posted by adicoto

Just loaded an sub file and saved it as srt. No problems, ","it's used. Is it possible that BSPlayer reads OS regional settings and act depending on it ? As there is a decimal separator, it will be used according to OS regional settings, isn't it so ? Rather than the correct usage which says: ","it's used, as the software was developped in France

Yes, it (Bsplayer Pro 2.36.990 subtitle editor) currently uses the default system regional settings, as I already said below.

But this is simply not correct, even if it sometimes produces the correct result. It is true that the comma was chosen for the format because the software and format was developed in France, BUT the format is specified fixed only with the comma, at least up till now.

Thus many players, "correctly", refuse to accept (not accept = not parse properly = no subtitles) the decimal point srt's which result if you use the current Bsplayer editor with a "." as default regional separator. I have my XP set to UK (English) with German Keyboard and it currently produces 00:00:00.000.

Perhaps the .srt format specification should be changed, to allow either "." or ",". I have no idea where that would be done though, and I do not know if all the media players which require a "," would be pleased to simply change their software to accept either. In terms of parseability (eindeutigkeit) either "," or "." would work fine. I do not know if there is an international or internet standard for time stamp formats with decimalised seconds.

I have talked to VLC about this, and they seem to be considering allowing either ("." or ",") in future versions, though I am not involved at their decision level.

SubSync accepts either "." or "," but writes only the correct format ",".

[Tizio]

I think that BS.Player should save the subtitles with the "," (comma) character as decimal separator, independently from the international settings used in the users' OS.

At the moment (BS.Player v2.40.995B) BSplayer still uses international settings.
This is actually a bug, so it have to be fixed

SubRip's specifications can be changed/rewritten, but it's not the preferred solution, and the proper solution is to fix the BSplayer bug instead of changing someone else specifications